Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Alexey Shirov vs Glenn C Flear
"Rather Shirov Himself" (game of the day Aug-24-2005)
Birmingham 4NCL 2004/5 (2005), ?, rd 10, May-01
Spanish Game: Open. Bernstein Variation (C80)  ·  1-0



explore this opening
find similar games 1 more Shirov/G Flear game
sac: 19.axb3 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: Premium members can suggest a game for Guess-the-Move with the Guess-the-Move Suggestion Queue.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.

Kibitzer's Corner
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
Aug-24-05  prinsallan: First!? - Dubious indeed.
<Rexeterna>If you are first, maybe its better to say something about the game then to just say "First"... Whats so impressive with being first if you donīt have any opinions? I think that was the statement <dac1990> was pointing out.
Premium Chessgames Member
  jahhaj: <weary willy> Shirov was playing board 2 for Wood Green. Michael Adams was board 1.
Premium Chessgames Member
  jahhaj: <khense> 21...♕f6 22.♗c5+ ♔g8 23.e7 fails to 23...♗xf2+ 24.♗xf2 ♕xe7. I think the second line I quoted is White's best after 21...♕f6, very difficult for Black.
Aug-24-05  xenophon: if you like this game you should try sutovsky vs sokolov from the same event
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: <jahhaj: Doesn't 21...Qf6 save Black? E.g. 22.e7+ Qxe7 23.Bc5 Rd6 and White has compensation but isn't clearly winning.> 22. Bc5+ Rd6 23. Bxd6+ cxd6 24. Qc8+ Ke7 25. Qd7#. If 23...Kg8, then 24. e7.
Premium Chessgames Member
  jahhaj: <al-wazir> 23...♔g8 is a stupid move, perhaps you meant 22...♔g8. If so then 23.e7 fails to 23...♗xf2+
Aug-24-05  EmperorAtahualpa: <dac 1990> You just did.
Aug-24-05  chessic eric: <al wazir> in your line, 25.Qd7 is not mate, as black can play 25...,Kf8. I agree with <jahhaj> that 21...,Qf6 is black's best chance, but interposing the black rook @ d6 is disastrous. Better to play Kg8 after white's Bc5+ and hope the attack on f2 provdes some counterchances.
Aug-24-05  ajile: <grogygrmln: Perhaps he could be Shirov himself because he felt he had nothing to Flear?>


Aug-24-05  Koster: Complicated opening, but 11...Be7 or Qd7 both look safer than d4. Not sure if the attack is 100% sound, but too risky to allow it against Shirov.
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: I wonder if "Nothing to Flear but Flear himself" was rejected?
Aug-24-05  psmith: <EmperorAtahualpa>
(to dac 1990) "You just did."
No, dac 1990 said "'first'".
He didn't say 'first'.
Aug-24-05  YouRang: I have a feeling that after 21. Be3 Qf6, as jahhaj suggests, Shirov would have lost had he been playing a strong computer like Fritz. Maybe. A fun game to watch though.
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: The conclusion is whimsical:white can't crash through directly-so he creates a diversion on the seventh to crash through on the eighth after all.

With play like that -I bet Shirov wins more than his "Shirov" his games.

Aug-24-05  dac1990: That was the joke of my post; I can't warn against saying 'first' without actually saying it. It just annoys me that people inflate their egos by posting the woed 'first' when they're the first one to kibitz. It doesn't add anything constructive.
Premium Chessgames Member
  Robin01: <dac1990> You should not let such small things annoy you so much. Who cares if people put first, second, etc. on their posts?
Aug-24-05  sitzkrieg: 28th!
Aug-24-05  PaulLovric: <sitzkrieg: first!> LMFAO
Aug-24-05  PaulLovric: IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EGOS, IT IS BLOODY FUNNY, THIS WAS NOT:<dac1990: No one should ever say 'first'. Great game.>
Aug-24-05  lopium: Oh my Gods! kidding.
Aug-24-05  BishopofBlunder: <WannaBe> <I wonder if "Nothing to Flear but Flear himself" was rejected?> Possibly, but it's not something we can be Shirov!
Premium Chessgames Member
  WannaBe: <BishopofBlunder> Ouch... Good one. :-)
Aug-25-05  EmperorAtahualpa: <psmith> And I thought I was being picky....LOL
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: <jahhaj: 23...Kg8 is a stupid move, perhaps you meant 22...Kg8. If so then 23.e7 fails to 23...Bxf2+> Then 24. Bxf2, with Re1 a threat.
Premium Chessgames Member
  jahhaj: <al wazir> 21...♕f6 22.♗c5 ♔g8 23.e7 ♗xf2+ 24.♗f2 ♕xe7 and Black is the exchange and two pawns up, with, long term, a safer king as well. I don't see ♖e1 as much of a threat, e.g. 25.♖e1 ♕d6 26.♖e8+ ♖xe8 27.♕xe8 ♕f8 and Black is fine.
search thread:   
< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 2 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>
NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any gratuitous name-calling of any members—including Admin and Owners—or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
21...Qf6! makes a fight of it and may refute 18. e6!?
from Defensive Combinations by xajik
Shirov crashes through the eighth
from kevin86's favorite games part 2 by kevin86
Theory in the making.
from bitko's 2nd collection by bitko
Spanish Bernstein Var (C80) 1-0 Pawn advances & pins
from Spaniards Settin' Sail by fredthebear
Spanish Bernstein Var (C80) 1-0 Pawn advances & pins
from yPins Ins & Outs, All About Pins, Pile on, Unpin by fredthebear
Open Ruy Lopez
by webbing1947
One of Shirov's 'Fire on board' games
from Attacking games by Marvol
RUI Open 1-0
from xfer's favorite games 2006 by xfer
21...Qf6! makes a fight of it and may refute 18. e6!?
from Defensive Combinations by nakul1964
Breakthrough-Theory in the making.
from 98_C80-C83_Ruy Lopez, Open by whiteshark
Rather Shirov Himself
from The Greatest Games of 2005 by dac1990
Ruy Lopez, Open, 9. Nbd2 variation, 10...Bg4
from The Ultimate Repetoire(1) by KKW
Shirov vs Glenn Flear
from SUBLIME by wwm
August 24: Rather Shirov Himself
from Game of the Day 2005 by Phony Benoni
21...Qf6! makes a fight of it and may refute 18. e6!?
from Defensive Combinations by patzer2
Open Ruy Lopez
by Rimrock
Breakthrough-Theory in the making.
from 98_C80-C83_Ruy Lopez, Open by webbing1947

home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us

Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC