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|Feb-17-12|| ||pedro123: If you didn't know who the players were you'd think that White was a timid patzer. Did somebody slip something in his drink?|
|Feb-17-12|| ||Rook e2: <Penguincw: Wow. I thought Hoogovens was classical not blitz.>|
Hoogovens/CorusSteel/TataSteel is classical. This must have been a side event or so
|Feb-17-12|| ||Cucurbit: Kasparov's opening was weak here. The first ten moves just look like overconfidence to me. After 10 ... Rb8, black has everything black ever wants out of the Sicilian.|
|Feb-17-12|| ||Penguincw: < Rook e2: <Penguincw: Wow. I thought Hoogovens was classical not blitz.>|
Hoogovens/CorusSteel/TataSteel is classical. This must have been a side event or so >
Yah. That makes sense. Even if the blitz event is 13 rounds. :-\
|Feb-17-12|| ||kevin86: A rare defeat by the champ from outside the top players.|
|Feb-17-12|| ||goodevans: <King Death: Isn't the "oo" in Dutch pronounced like the word "oh" (the "long O" sound) in English?>|
From what I remember in my time out there that's a pretty close approximation.
|Feb-17-12|| ||hedgeh0g: Bosboom boom boom boom. He wanted Kaspy in his room!|
|Feb-17-12|| ||master of defence: 51... Qe3+ was a lose of time. 51...Qh2+ immediately wins much faster. See: 52. Kf1 Qf2#; 52. Kf3 Qf2+ 53. Ke4 Qe3#; 52. Kd1 Bc3 threatening 53...Qd2#.|
|Feb-17-12|| ||Peligroso Patzer: Kasparov just lost the thread in this game ... a classic case of not being able to see the forest for the trees.|
|Feb-17-12|| ||SuperPatzer77: See diagram below:
click for larger view
White resigns in lieu of as follows:
55. Qh8+ Kg5, 56. Qg7+ Kh4, 57. Qh6 (preventing 57...Qd2#) Qg1+ see below:
a) 58. Ke2 Qe1+, 59. Kf3 Bd4!, 60. Qf4+ Kh3 (White runs out of queen checks)
b) 58. Kc2 Qf2+, 60. Kd1 Qe1+, 61. Kc2 Qe2+, 62. Kc1 Bb2+, 63. Kb1 Ba3! 64. Qf4+ Kh3 (White cannot use perpetual checks by the White Queen)
Nice game by Manuel Bosboom!
|Feb-17-12|| ||al wazir: <Shams: See <beatgiant>'s post below.> Above? I saw it. My analysis is 27. Qh6 Rg8 28. Rae1 Qc8 (28...e5 locks up the B and leaves the possibility of h4-h5-hxg6, followed by f7) 29. Rf4 Qf8 30. Qg5. Black is in no danger, but his position is extremely cramped and passive. I think that at least white is better off than in the game line, which lost.|
|Feb-17-12|| ||diagonal: (quote) still under the influence of anaesthesia:
No, it's not <Kasparov> (who would most certainly beat once more that unlucky player, <Shirov>, who was forced to go to a local dentist and therefore could not play, subsequently replaced by <Manuel Bosboom>).
Here is a background story why Bosboom get the chance to play in this blitz tournamant, facing and beating Kasparov, and which famous game Kasparov played and won two days later in the main tournament - read and enjoy!!
by Hans Ree
One is reminded of a chapter of a boy's book or an old heroic
legend. In the sacred chess halls in the Dutch village of Wijk aan
Zee, on one of the free days of the main group of the Hoogovens
tournament, the blitz tournament is held. There they are, the
demi-gods. In front Kasparov, the magnificent, then the
light-footed Anand, the crystal-clear Kramnik, the profound
Ivanchuk and the resourceful Topalov together with eight steeled
fighters of almost the same terrifying strength. Only one is absent -
it is the brilliant Alexei Shirov, who has been treated by a local
dentist and is still under the influence of anaesthesia. A
replacement has to be found, but who is available on such short
notice and who can be a worthy replacement for Shirov, man of a
thousand ruses? But there we see Manuel Bosboom! O yes,
Bosboom, he is a strong Dutch international master, but is it
morally defensible to have this young man pulverized by the
giants? They say he is an agile blitz player. Ah well, then let it be;
it is ruthless, but it has to be done.
And Bosboom, still trembling because of the high and unexpected
honour, loses his first three games, and nobody blames him, for
that was his destiny. But then Bosboom finds himself. He knew
that he deserved his place among the giants, even if he was the
only one that knew, and he starts winning games and finishes as
the highest Dutch player, together with Loek van Wely. And
against Gary Kasparov, the man who throws rocks as if they are
tennis balls, uproots heavy trees with bare hands and eats strong
international masters for breakfast, against him Manuel Bosboom
won their game. And he was the only one who did.
That night saw long and agitated discussions in the watering-places
around the sacred halls in Wijk aan Zee where all this happened.
White: Kh1, Qf4, Re4, Bc4; pawns - a4, b3, d3, e5, f6, g2, h4
Black: Kh7, Qf8, Rd8, Bc3; pawns - a5, b4, c5, e6, f7, g6, h5
Black has the advantage because the white mini-chain on e5 en f6
is very vulnerable. Kasparov now violently tries to turn the game
around. 42. g2-g4 h5xg4 43. Qf4xg4 Qf8-h6 In the long run white
cannot defend his weak pawns. His only chance is a counterattack
and because of this 44. Bxe6 deserved consideration, especially in
the last stage of a blitz game, though white certainly can not hope
for more than a draw with this. 44. Kh1-g2 Rd8-d4 45. h4-h5
Qh6-d2+ 46. Qg4-e2 Qd2-g5+ Black is winning. 47. Kg2-f1
g6xh5 48. Re4xd4 Bc3xd4 49. Qe2-e4+ Kh7-h6 50. Qe4-a8
Qg5-g1+ 51. Kf1-e2 Qg1-e3+ 52. Ke2-d1 Qe3-g1+ 53. Kd1-e2
Qg1-h2+ 54. Ke2-d1 Bd4-c3 White resigned.>>
(to be continued)
|Feb-17-12|| ||diagonal: (continuation)
<<Despite this one loss Kasparov won the blitz tournament
convincingly with 10.5 out of 13, one and a half points ahead of
Anand and Ivanchuk. And two days later he played the most
stunning game I have ever witnessed.
Sometimes Kasparov does things that no other chessplayer is able
to do, things that are so stunning that colleagues and spectators ask
themselves in astounded admiration how for heaven's sake it is
possible that a human being can invent them. So it was in the fifth
round of the Hoogovens tournament. Against Topalov he conjured
up an attack out of nothing, with a rook sacrifice. Topalov thought
long before he accepted the sacrifice. He could have reached an
equal position by refusing, which of course he saw. After the game
Kasparov said grinningly that for a brief moment Topalov had
looked up, maybe receiving a message from above that he should
contribute to Beauty by taking the rook.
After that not only the moves that Kasparov made were stunning,
but also the speed with which he executed them. Fifteen mortal
blows in a row, all of marvelous beauty. Neither humans nor
computers knew what to make of it while they saw it happening
before their eyes, but Kasparov had already seen everything long
before. After he had won, he said that this had been one of the
most beautiful combinations of his career, maybe the most
beautiful. This was no exaggeration. Those who were privileged to
be present knew they would tell it to their children and
grandchildren, as long as chess will be played in this world.
This column first appeared in the Dutch newspaper
"NRC-Handelsblad" on January 23, 1999. Copyright
1999 Hans Ree. All Rights Reserved.>
|Feb-17-12|| ||Shams: <aw> Below, above. How about <supra>? |
Well it's blitz, so that means even you and I can find improvements on Garry's play if we look long enough. I think Black should be fine in that line, though. His bishop is far superior to White's (which can't even recycle itself usefully) and he can always play ...h6, ...h5, ...Kh7 and ...Qh6 consolidating on the dark squares if he needs to.
What is the idea behind 28.Rbd1<?> I'm missing it.
|Feb-17-12|| ||ajile: <Cucurbit: Kasparov's opening was weak here. The first ten moves just look like overconfidence to me. After 10 ... Rb8, black has everything black ever wants out of the Sicilian.>|
Agree 100%. White plays a bunch of cutesy moves and allows Black a lead in development and good position.
Seemed though that White equalized later but didn't want to concede a draw.
|Feb-17-12|| ||waustad: How many times does one lose by trying to win a draw? I guess for an agressive player, if you win several for any you lose in such situation you're ahead of the game.|
|Feb-17-12|| ||King Death: < waustad: ...I guess for an agressive player, if you win several for any you lose in such situation you're ahead of the game.>|
Larsen was great at that and it was probably the difference between his career and some "ordinary" strong GMs.
|Feb-17-12|| ||ajile: Patience is a huge part of the game at the higher levels. Especially when playing White it's hard to not try and push for the advantage. But this sometimes backfires and mistakes are made.|
|Feb-17-12|| ||hedgeh0g: <ajile> Good point, but it's also important to strike while the iron's hot. Knowing when to be patient and when to break open the centre for an attack is what makes a player exceptional, in my view.|
|Feb-18-12|| ||King Death: < hedgeh0g: ...Knowing when to be patient and when to break open the centre for an attack is what makes a player exceptional, in my view.>|
This seems to come under the slippery category that's often called "judgment".
It was fine for Fischer to say "I don't believe in psychology I believe in good moves" but in my opinion the character of the player on the other side of the board and his possible psychological state (for who knows how many reasons) count too.
Larsen was an optimist and a great practical player that had success in tournaments, the same way Bogoljubow had before him but those traits didn't translate into success at the world championship level in match play, just like Bogo. When they failed to adapt their play to the greatest players (that had all of the traits to win) they ran into brick walls.
|Feb-18-12|| ||SuperPatzer77: In addition to my previous analysis - see diagram below:|
click for larger view
Black to move and win below:
57...Qg1+, 58. Ke2 Qe1+, 59. Kf3 Bd4!, 60. Bxe6!? (worth a try) fxe6!! (perfect position for Black to set up the mating net), 61. Qf4+ Kh3, 62. Qg5 (giving the White King a flight square) Qf2+, 63. Ke4 Qe2+ 64. Kf4 Qe3#
Seeing that Black's strong move is 60...fxe6! to set up the mating net although the White f-pawn has threatened to go queening)
So, there's no way White can escape from the inevitable checkmate.
|Feb-18-12|| ||TheMacMan: kaspy played too aggresive cant control himself, even in endgame, he plays like an unrelentless madman thats why kramnik recognized this weakness and was able to subdue and submerge him.|
|Feb-18-12|| ||King Death: < TheMacMan: kaspy played too aggresive cant control himself, even in endgame, he plays like an unrelentless madman thats why kramnik recognized this weakness and was able to subdue and submerge him.>|
What happened in his match with Kramnik was nothing to do with this rapid game and I don't understand why everybody here's in such a hurry to pick this game apart. It's only a quick game folks, it isn't like it was the final game of the world championship match for all the marbles.
There just doesn't seem to be a lot of point to plowing through it unless there's a great need to feel superior to Kasparov for a minute. Then again there are some that get off on that, it's their refuge from a world where they won't get a sniff of 2200 much less be either of these players.
|Feb-19-12|| ||beatgiant: <al wazir>
<the game line, which lost.>
I doubt that 27. Qg5 is a losing move in itself. I think Kasparov went wrong much later, maybe with the pawn pushes after move 40. I think he was looking too hard for a win that wasn't there.
|Feb-19-12|| ||AKE88: Why not 37...g5??|
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