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|Oct-05-05|| ||erimiro1: <Ulhumbrus >It seems to me, that the Berlin defense demands more than 99% of the grandmasters can offer in positional game. It looks like "anti-chess" to us, and that the black pieces are locked and passive, while the king starts traveling on the board very early in the game, provoking the white rooks and bishops. BUT...nothing happens. White sweats hard to prove his positional advantage, and black, like Tarrasch 100 years ago and Topalov today, waits for the error such as g4. So Lasker's opinion in "Common sense in chess" (that was given in 1895) says nothing. The "Berlin wall" is one of the cases that common sense is not enough.|
|Oct-05-05|| ||iron maiden: She was pregnant not long ago.|
|Oct-05-05|| ||PARACONT1: <acaling1000> Analysis from the 1980s has already proven beyond a doubt that Kd5 draws with correct play. I'm convinced your analysis is exactly the same, congrats on your "originality" but some GM beat you to it 20 years ago!|
|Oct-05-05|| ||capanegra: Topalov's comments after the game (made in Spanish and translated by me):|
- "I think Judit blundered with 20.g4; it was a pretty bad move"
- "I don't know what happen with my rivals, but it is evident that they play different with me and make incredible errors"
He also told that in the morning after breakfast he decided with his analysts team (Silvio Danailov and Ivan Cheparinov) to play the Berlin to surprise Judit:
- "We arrived here with the idea to play it in some game, and today we decided to do it. Everything resulted as planned"
|Oct-05-05|| ||Averageguy: The thing I really like about this game is that Judit Polgar never seems to make an obvious mistake, (apart from maybe 20.g4), yet Topalov builds up a dominating position.|
|Oct-05-05|| ||acirce: <- "I don't know what happen with my rivals, but it is evident that they play different with me and make incredible errors">|
Interesting quote and quite true, although much of it is simply that they crumble under his pressure. It could mean something for today's game, because while Kasimdzhanov is certainly not that great a player overall, he is at least known for resisting very well and finding the moves needed for defence even in difficult positions. Maybe it won't be so easy.
|Oct-07-05|| ||Elrathia Kingi: The tournament website gives the last move as 64...Ke5.|
|Oct-07-05|| ||Kriegspiel: Wow, that photograph is something. Look at all those empty seats! What does that signify?|
|Oct-07-05|| ||WMD: A small crowd?|
|Oct-07-05|| ||Boomie: 10. h3 is the most commonly played move in this position in the Fritz database (28/59). 12. b3 was the move that bothered me. A little research shows that this game followed Karjakin vs Kramnik, 2004. Karjakin played 12. b3 and won. Here Topalov uncorks the novelty 12...c5.|
Although b2 is a fine square for the bishop, a better post is...d8!
12. ♖d1+ ♗d7 13. e6 fxe6 14. h4 h5 15. ♗g5+ ♔c8 16. ♖d3 e5 17. ♖ad1 ♗d6 18. ♖1d2 ♖e8 19. ♘xd6+ cxd6 20.
♖xd6 ♗f5 21. ♗d8 (0.84/17) and black's development will be an exercise in torture.
Of couse black can also play 12...♔e8, but white keeps about the same advantage. I get a real chuckle out of moves like ♗d8.
|Oct-28-05|| ||patzer2: After Judit Polgar's weakening 20. g4?, Topalov's 20...h5! wins a pawn with advantage. At this level of play, that is often all that is needed to pull off the win -- as is the case in this game.|
|Dec-30-05|| ||HannibalSchlecter: Doesn't 50. Kg3 hold for white?|
|Dec-30-05|| ||THE pawn: The Berlin is really an amazing weapon in the right hands. That was the last good heritage Kramnik gave us, unless 2006 becomes a better year for him...and all of us (reunification match please!)|
|Mar-06-08|| ||positionalgenius: <THE pawn> Wish granted|
|Mar-06-08|| ||Udit Narayan: wow, deja vu|
|Mar-01-09|| ||WhiteRook48: I don't know how that happened!|
|Feb-11-11|| ||Owerbart: Nice king infiltraton by Topa!|
|May-06-12|| ||Dargone: I just played this game using "Guess the Move", and it was really interesting. An intense positional battle. I was pretty happy with myself because I played the endgame quite well. I finished with 127 points and didn't make any major blunders.|
|Sep-06-14|| ||Tigranny: Interesting how Judit demonstrates her skillful play against Kasparov in the Berlin Defense in 2002, but then gets beaten by Topalov in 2005 as White against the exact same opening. |
BTW, nice game by Veselin with the Berlin Wall.
|Sep-23-15|| ||abstract: Hats off to the black King|
|Sep-23-15|| ||The Kings Domain: It's nice to see there are Cagney fans at Chessgames. :-)|
Nice opening, the start is reminiscent of Victorian-era play. Polgar must have been disappointed with the endgame; she got outpointed there.
|Sep-23-15|| ||Once: The King mobility seems to be the main factor here. Topalov allows his king to be kicked around in the opening, but then wins with a bold king march in the endgame.|
Interesting how Topalov uses a knight outpost on d4 to shield his king as he relocates from the queenside to the kingside.
With rooks on the board who would have thought that the black king could get safely to d3?
|Sep-23-15|| ||kevin86: The passed pawn eventually allows the black king to gobble up the pawns.|
|Nov-26-18|| ||Fanques Fair: Where is the rest of this game ?|
|Mar-02-19|| ||amadeus: <Fanques Fair: Where is the rest of this game?>|
Something's wrong here :/
Anyway, it went like this:
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.O-O Nxe4 5.d4 Nd6 6.Bxc6 dxc6
7.dxe5 Nf5 8.Qxd8+ Kxd8 9.Nc3 Ne7 10.h3 Ng6 11.Ne4 h6 12.b3 c5
13.Be3 b6 14.Rad1+ Bd7 15.Nc3 Kc8 16.Nd5 Be6 17.c4 Kb7 18.Bc1
a5 19.a4 Rd8 20.g4 h5 21.Ne3 Re8 22.Rfe1 Nf4 23.Ng5 Be7
24.Nxe6 fxe6 25.gxh5 Nxh3+ 26.Kf1 Rxh5 27.Ng4 Bg5 28.Bxg5 Rxg5
29.f3 Rf8 30.Kg2 Nf4+ 31.Kg3 Rh5 32.Kf2 Ng6 33.Rd7 Rh3 34.Re3
Nh4 35.Rdd3 Kc6 36.Rc3 Rh1 37.Red3 Nf5 38.Ne3 Nd4 39.Nf1 Rh5
40.Re3 Rf4 41.Rcd3 g5 42.Re4 Kb7 43.Kg3 Rxe4 44.fxe4 Rh4
45.Nd2 Kc8 46.Re3 Kd7 47.Re1 Ke7 48.Nf3 Nxf3 49.Kxf3 Kf7
50.Rd1 Rf4+ 51.Ke3 Kg7 52.Rd7+ Rf7 53.Rd1 Kg6 54.Rd8 g4
55.Rg8+ Kh5 56.Rh8+ Kg5 57.Rg8+ Kh4 58.Rg6 Rf3+ 59.Ke2 Kg3
60.Rxe6 Kf4 61.Re8 Re3+ 62.Kf2 g3+ 63.Kg2 Kxe4 64.e6 Kd3 0-1
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