| Oct-04-05 | | notsodeepthought: Anand probably foresaw 36 Bb3 (winning the black knight if black does not sacrifice the exchange) as early as move 30, while Svidler must have missed it. |
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Oct-04-05
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: See what I mean? The Marshall truly is a drawish opening! Don't believe me? Check out the Chessgames Opening Explorer. |
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| Oct-04-05 | | csmath: Absolutely.
I am avoiding Marshall as white as much as I can, ordinarily I play a3 anti-Marshall. When you check Kasparov uses both a3 and h3 systems.
This is one of the openings that taught me a lesson. Usually it happened I had to spend a whole game chasing some little advantage against black after I spent about 25-30 moves defending myself.For black it is at least fun to play in the beginning, for white it is nothing more than heavy labor with little rewards. |
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| Oct-04-05 | | THE pawn: I thought the marshall was a dangerous ''gambit''? |
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| Oct-04-05 | | csmath: Used to be in Marshall's times.
Well, it is dangerous if you are not prepared for all the forced bifurcations in there. You need a good memory to play it. |
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| Oct-04-05 | | pinakin8: Why not 35.Bb3 |
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| Oct-05-05 | | VishyFan: can somebody tell y Anand didn't play 38. ♔f3, it looks like a better continuation..... |
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| Oct-05-05 | | VishyFan: No photo for this game yet? |
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| Oct-05-05 | | samikd: Can someone please explain why 34.Bb3 does not win the game for White ? |
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Oct-05-05
 | | Mateo: <pinakin8: Why not 35.Bb3> because of 35... Bd4 (xf2). |
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| Oct-05-05 | | AdrianP: Cf. Kramnik vs Leko, 2004 - Svidler must have analysed all this with Kramnik and have been fairly comfortable in this position (notwithstanding the debacle in the referenced game...). |
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Oct-05-05
| | Mateo: <VishyFan: can somebody tell y Anand didn't play 38. f3, it looks like a better continuation.....> It is a dead draw anyway because of the opposite colour bishops. I suppose you meant 38. Kf3. After this move, Svidler plays his Knight, for instance to e7, and there is no tactical danger on the a2-g8 diagonal. |
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Oct-05-05
| | Mateo: 34. Bb3  provides some chances to Anand. It should be better than what he played because in the game, it was an easy draw for Svidler. |
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| Oct-05-05 | | Ulhumbrus: Instead of 21 Kg2, an immediate 21 e5 Be7 22 Ne4 refuses to wait for ...c5. |
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| Oct-05-05 | | Ulhumbrus: Ivkov says that according to Fischer, if the Marshall countergambit is sound, the Ruy Lopez has seen its days. The matter doesn't seem settled yet, however, and White has alternatives to this line. |
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Oct-05-05
| | Mateo: <Ulhumbrus: Instead of 21 Kg2, an immediate 21 e5 Be7 22 Ne4 refuses to wait for ...c5.> Your variation should be carefully considered. I guess black should play now 22... Kg7, preparing f6. I think it is roughly equal. White as the bishop pair + one pawn for the exchange. |
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| Oct-05-05 | | Ulhumbrus: After 21 Kg2 c5 one alternative to 22e5 is 22 Nf1 taking one step towards Ne3 and Nf5. |
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| Oct-05-05 | | Ulhumbrus: If White has no more than sufficient compensation for the exchange, or even more than enough compensation but not enough overall advantage to win, he will have to try something else. |
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| Nov-18-05 | | rjsolcruz: it is nice to see the good old marshall in the world championship! with marshall's opening fireworks, chess is like the nba; i love this game! |
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May-09-25
 | | plang: Svidler had been Leko's second for his 2004 match with Kramnik. He decided not to repeat Leko's 16..Qh5 played in the 8th game of the match which resulted in a brilliant victory for Black. Gershon and Nor after 18 f3:
"The exchange of the rook for the important bishop is the key element in these positions. White's compensation for the exchange will consist of: 1. A pawn (which he already has).
2. A strong centre.
3. Weaknesses to attack, especially near Black's king.
4. Black;s rooks lack open lines, and he has no obvious plan. All these are sufficient for the exchange, and even more than that. The question is how much more..." 19 Re1 had been played in the draw Peng-Grischuk Shanghai 2001; 19 Nd2 was new. 20..Ne7 21 e5..Bc7 22 Ne4 would have left Black with little counterplay. Sakaev suggested 21 Nf3 which appears to be an improvement. 25 a3 maintaining the bishop on the a2-g8 diagonal perhaps would have been stronger. 28..Rfd8 would have been better maintaining a small Black edge. 30..Rb8?! 31 Bf3..Nb4 32 Rd1..Be7 33 Ne4..Nxa2 34 d5..Nb4 35 d6..Bd8 36 d7 would have led to an advantage for White. |
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