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Jean-Rene Koch vs Emmanuel Neiman
FRA-ch (1997), Narbonne FRA, rd 12, Aug-27
Spanish Game: Closed. Bogoljubow Variation (C91)  ·  1-0

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Nov-19-12
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  FSR: 35.Qxe6+ looks promising.
Nov-19-12
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  FSR: <al wazir: Pretty.

If I had the white side, I would probably have played 34. Rxe6. It wins a piece, so it must be the best move, right?>

It's a real embarrassment of riches situation. 34.Rxe6 isn't half bad, e.g. 34...Rxa2 35.Rxg6+ hxg6 36.Qxd7 and Black can only delay mate by throwing away his rooks with spite checks; 34...Rd8 35.Ref6! Qe8 (35...Qxg4 36.Rf8+ Rxf8 37.Rxf8#) 36.Qe6+! Qxe6 (after 36...Kh8, 37.Qe5, 37.Qxe8+, and 37.Qxc8 all mate quickly) 37.Rf8+ Rxf8 38.Rxf8#.

Also good is 34.Qxe6+ Qxe6 35.Rxe6 Rxa2 ("best" is 35...Ra8, preparing ...R2c8, when White will mate on the 7th rank instead of the 8th, with Re7, Rff7, etc.) 36.Ref6! with unstoppable mate.

Nov-19-12  notyetagm: Game Collection: THE UNDERRATED REMOVAL OF THE GUARD -- Heisman

J R Koch vs E Neiman, 1997 35 Qg4xNe6+! destroys the defender of the f8-mating square

Nov-19-12  Abdel Irada: <<>My kingdom for a pawn!<>>

Not yet having looked at the game, I hazard a guess: Black's last move was 34. ...Rxc2.

Apparently having failed to "tune [his] tactical antenna," Neiman performed a chessic impression of _Mad_ magazine's Alfred E. ("What, me worry?") Neuman. He saw an undefended pawn on c2 and made off with it. After all, his knight on e6 is stopping the mate threat on f8, and the knight is defended by his queen, so what could possibly go wrong?

The answer is also the solution to our puzzle:

<<>35. Qxe6!...>

Meanwhile, White approached the position with a question of his own: "If that knight weren't on e6, I'd have a mate with Rf8, so how can I get rid of the knight?"

<<>35. ...Qxe6>

Having committed himself by grabbing the pawn, Black doesn't have any better choices: 35. ...Kh8 is still met by 36. Rf8#.

<<>36. Rf8#>

Oh, well. At least Black got the c-pawn.

Nov-19-12
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  morfishine: <35.Qxe6+ Qxe6 36.Rf8 mate>

<Lost in space> is right!

Nov-19-12  Abdel Irada: Now that I *have* looked over the game, I can only say "Oops." Apparently what Black seized on c2 was not a pawn, but merely a square, in the apparent hope of exchanging off one of White's attacking pieces.

How hopeless this was is pointed up by the fact that White could also have picked off the knight on e6 with his rook rather than exchanging; it was merely the availability of this combination as a superior alternative that prevented his making that choice.

This raises a question: Where *did* Black go wrong?

Increasingly, I suspect that 14. ...Qd7 is too passive. After that point, the text seems fairly consistent for both players, and seems to tend toward a dangerous attack by the first player. The most obvious alternative would appear to be 14. ...Na5, when play might continue 15. Bc2, Nc4; 16. Qd3, g6; 17. Bf4, Bf5; 18. Qd1, Bxc2; 19. Qxc2, c5.

Mind, I say this as a nonspecialist in the Bogolubov Variation, so be sure to take it seasoned with the requisite amount of salt.

Nov-19-12  Bengambit: Oh no you didn't go there with that,chessgames.com...i was looking for another Ms.Krush braintwister today. Mmmmm,sorry....but I was ready to fight the "Chess Demon's" of the guess the move underworld this morning,until I saw this. Took all of the fight right out of me, what are you going try next,cheese?? I'll be back.........
Nov-19-12  zb2cr: Simple. Remove the guard by 35. Qxe6+, Qxe6; Now that the Knight is no longer guarding f8, 36. Rf8# mates.
Nov-19-12
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  whiteshark: Way too easy for a Monday. lol
Nov-19-12  cunctatorg: An analysis please (even Computer Aided Analysis - CAA) of the Black's errors and mistakes in this very game!! Thanks in advance!

P.S: what about 15 ... Bh5 and what about the very last Black's error?

Nov-19-12
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  Once: There is a pleasing symmetry about this one. The white combination almost describes a rectangle, with the four/five corners being f8, c8, c2 and e2/f1.

The tricky position is this one, with black to play:


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I think we'd all far rather be white here. He has more space, the makings of a kingside attack and a relatively safe king.

And now black played 30...Rc2. I have to be honest at this point and say that I might have been tempted by that move too. It seems to get a bit of counterplay for black. It starts an attack on the a2 pawn which we ideally need to get out of the way so we can roll our queenside pawns. Black may still be slightly behind but at least he's fighting.

As the old saying goes, I'd rather die with my boots on. Actually I've never quite understood that one. I'd rather die with all my clothes off and a contented smile on my face, but that's another story entirely.

But it turns out that 30...Rc2 turns a "meh" position into a "mwahahahaha" situation. Now white unleashes a forcing sequence to riff off that unfortunate Rc2.

31. Bh6! threatening mate on the move is always fun, but this also opens the e file for later frisky frolics. And it gains control of f8.

31...g6 32. e6


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I've got a sneaking affection for positions with multiple pawn threats at the same time, like a thicket of spears. For some reason it always reminds me of the film Zulu.

32...fxe6 33. fxe6 Nxe6


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The stage is set for a chain reaction combination where the Re2 captures on c2, distracts the c8 rook, captures on e6 to remove the last defender of f8 and then a bishop and rook mate, with the rook striking all the way from f1. If this was a film it would be the end of a James Bond flick when the whole set blows up in a gout of fire and smoke.

One last thought, after 35. Qxe6+ Kh8


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36. Rf8 is mate in one. But I can't resist the Mondayesque 36. Qg8+ Kxg8 37. Rfb#

Nov-19-12  Abdel Irada: <Once: But I can't resist the Mondayesque 36. Qg8+ Kxg8 37. Rfb#>

Then you need only pretend that when the king moved to h8, it revealed a hidden knight on g8. (Although, annoyingly, even this would allow a "dual": 36. Qe5.)

Nov-19-12  dark.horse: My thought process today:

35.Rf8+ Nf8 36.Qxd7 Nxd7

OOPS!
try the other way around:

35.Qxe6+ Qxe6 36.Rf8#

Nov-19-12  Bengambit: White's dark squared Bishop has the last word,all he has to do is get into that "Novelty" position with Bishop to h6 locking down g7 and f8 with a rook on the f file,a common mating position. I can hear Black saying this during the attack,"Where is my dark squared Bishop??" Oh, it's over on the side lines in prison !! I myself have said the same thing during my defeat's because I have overlooked my exchange value as it relates to a sound defensive position to prevent an mating attack.
Nov-19-12
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  chrisowen: Hustle in f8 ringer on im opening for mitigate double in dig pocket

32.e6 rocket 35.Qxe6+ in best it I seem for queen 35.Qxe6+ in for

mix he line sth6 a net rookf1 nexus lap toe in evermore f8 amen in

jah bitte 35...Qxe6 rook and bishop ping queens of tendil largely ar

to is it handle in f8 rook having bishop companion it bred in butter

good plugger do tell quenched it fon. win cuffed 36rf8#

Nov-19-12
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  paulalbert: Basic: Remove the defender. I can use this one for testing the Boy Scouts who are now working with me as their Chess Merit Badge Counselor on the new Chess Merit Badge.
Nov-19-12  Castleinthesky: Right on for a Monday puzzle.
Nov-19-12
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  kevin86: Decoy the rook and remove the knight! White's rook can mate.

another manic queen sac Monday!

Nov-19-12  BOSTER: <Abdel Irada>.
<This raises a question: Where did black go wrong?>

<Once> <30...Rc2. I have been tempted by this move too>.

In this pos. black to play move 30... where black king in the pos. against white queen, black should see the weakness on "g7" and at least , step aside (Kh8) or protect h6 square (R4-c6) against Bh6. They played attacking move Rc2, and after this lost almost by force.

Nov-19-12  MountainMatt: Why, Qxe6 of course.
Nov-19-12  M.Hassan: <once>:
Very amusing and pleasing analysis that showed how 6 moves earlier 30...Rc2 initiated loss of Black.
Nov-19-12  tivrfoa: 33. Rxc2 instead of Qxe6+ was interesting
Nov-19-12  Abdel Irada: <BOSTER>: This is the point: It seems pretty apparent that, by the time Black played 30. ...Rc2, he already stood so far worse as to be objectively lost; it was merely a matter of time until White broke through.
Nov-19-12  Nullifidian: The obvious thing about this position at the outset is that the knight is the only piece protecting the critical f8 square.

Therefore:

35. ♕xe6+ ♔h8/♕xe6 36. ♖f8#

Nov-19-12  LoveThatJoker: 35. QxN+! Q-KB2 (35...else 36. R-B8 mate) 36. QxQ+ K-R1 37. Q-KN7 mate

LTJ

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