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Lazaro Bruzon Batista vs Magnus Carlsen
"Et tu, Bruzon?" (game of the day Oct-17-2009)
II Samba Cup (2005), Skanderborg DEN, rd 7, Oct-21
Formation: King's Indian Attack (A07)  ·  1-0

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Dec-02-05  Neurotic Patzer: <lopium> I don't think it would be a shame for anyone to loose to Carlsen and I think it has been very well established that age is not an issue (at least when it comes to young players)
Oct-17-09  RandomVisitor: After 23...Nc6 black is lost. Perhaps 23...a5 holds.
Oct-17-09  dannygjk: Maybe Carlsen is ok after 24...Rb4, and if 25.Rf7, then return the piece: 24...Rb4 25.Rf7 Be6. eg, 26.Qe6, Qg5 27.Bc6, bc 28.Rg1, Qe5
Oct-17-09  patzer2: Nowadays there aern't that many "et tu"s
when it comes to those who can claim recent wins against Magnus Carlsen!
Oct-17-09  RandomVisitor: 4 minutes per move:

Lazaro Bruzon - Magnus Carlsen
[A04]

Samba Cup 2005 0:03:20-0:00:17 (7), 21.10.2005

[Rybka 3 ]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d3 Nc6 4.g3 g6 5.Bg2 Bg7 6.0-0 Nge7 7.c3 0-0 8.d4 cxd4 9.cxd4 d5 10.e5 f6 11.Re1 fxe5 12.dxe5 last book move

12...Rf5 0.18/19
13.Bf4= -0.18/19
[Rybka 3 : 13.Nc3 Nxe5= 0.18/19 ]

13...Qf8= 0.00/19
[Rybka 3 : 13...h6 14.h4 Qf8 15.Qd2 g5 16.hxg5 hxg5 17.Nxg5 Ng6 18.Nh3 Ngxe5 19.Nc3 Nc4 20.Qc1 Bd7 21.Ng5 Nd4 22.Rb1 Ne5 23.Bxe5 Rxe5 24.Rxe5 Bxe5 25.Qe3 Bf6 26.Rd1 Nf5= -0.18/19 ]

14.Qd2= -0.22/22
[Rybka 3 : 14.Nc3 Rxf4 15.gxf4 Qxf4 16.Qa4 Qxa4 17.Nxa4 b6 18.Nc3 Bd7 19.Bh3 Rf8 20.Kg2 Nf5 21.Rad1 a6 22.Na4 Rb8 23.Nc3 Rf8 24.Na4 Rb8 25.Nc3 Rf8 26.Na4 Rb8 27.Nc3 Rf8 28.Na4 Rb8 29.Nc3= 0.00/19 ]

14...g5 -0.22/21
15.Nxg5 -0.22/20 Ng6 0.00/19
16.Nc3= -0.24/20
[Rybka 3 : 16.Nh3 Ncxe5 17.Nc3 Nc4 18.Qe2 Qb4 19.Rab1 Bd7 20.Ng5 Nxf4 21.gxf4 Ne5 22.Nxe6 Bxe6 23.fxe5 Rd8 24.Qd3 Rg5 25.Qd2 Rxg2+ 26.Kxg2 Qg4+ 27.Kh1 Qf3 0.00/19 ]

16...Nxf4 -0.10/20
17.gxf4 -0.10/20 Rxf4 -0.10/18
18.Nxd5 -0.10/20 exd5 -0.10/19
19.Qxd5+ -0.30/20 Kh8 -0.10/19
20.e6 -0.25/17 Qe7 -0.05/18
21.Rad1 -0.25/16 Nd4= 0.00/19
[Rybka 3 : 21...Kg8 22.Qb3 Rb4 23.Qg3 Nd4 24.Bd5 Nf5 25.Qg2 h6 26.Nf7 Kh7 27.b3 a5 28.Qf3 Qf6 29.a3 Rh4= -0.25/16 ]

22.Kh1 0.00/17 Rb8 0.00/18
23.Re5 0.00/18 Nc6 0.91/21
[Rybka 3 : 23...Bd7 24.Rxd4 Bc6 25.Rxf4 Bxd5 26.Nf7+ Kg8 27.Bxd5 Bxe5 28.Nxe5 h5 29.Rf5 Re8 30.f4 Qb4 31.e7+ Kg7 32.Rf7+ Kh6 33.Rf6+ Kg7 34.Rf7+ Kh6 35.Rf6+ Kg7 36.Rf7+ Kh6 37.Rf6+ Kg7 38.Rf7+ Kh6= 0.00/18 ]

24.Rf5 0.91/19 Bxe6 0.91/20
25.Nxe6 0.91/19 Rxf5 1.93/20
[Rybka 3 : 25...Nb4 26.Qc5 Qxe6 27.Rxf4 Nd3 28.Qxa7 Qd6 29.Rd4 Bxd4 30.Rxd3 Qxh2+ 31.Kxh2 Bxa7 32.f4 Rf8 33.Kg3 Bb8 34.Rd4 b6 35.a4 h5 36.Bf1 Kg7 37.b4 Rf5 38.Bc4 Kf6 39.Kf3 Be5 40.Re4 0.91/19 ]

26.Qxf5 1.70/19 Bxb2? 3.87/21
[Rybka 3 : 26...Rg8 27.Be4 Bh6 28.Rd3 Rg6 29.Nc5 Ne5 30.Rd5 Ng4 31.Rd7 Qg5 32.Nd3 Nf6 33.Rd8+ Rg8 34.Rxg8+ Kxg8 35.Qe6+ Kg7 36.Qe7+ Kg8 37.Qxb7 Bf8 38.Qc8 Nxe4 39.Qe6+ Kg7 1.70/19 ]

27.Be4 3.87/18 Rg8 3.87/20
28.Rd3 3.87/18 Ne5 4.91/20
29.Rb3 4.54/18 Qh4? 14.96/12
[Rybka 3 : 29...b6 30.Rxb2 Ng4 31.f3 Rg6 32.Qf8+ Qxf8 33.Nxf8 Rg8 34.Nxh7 Ne5 35.f4 Nc4 4.54/18 ]

30.Rh3 13.43/15 1-0

Oct-17-09  RandomVisitor: <dannyqjk>If 24...Rb4 then 25.Nf7+ Kg8 26.Nd8! Rd4 (Bxe6 27.Nxe6 Kh8 28.Rh5 Rh4 29.Nxg7 Kxg7 30.Rxh4 Qxh4 31.Qe6 ) 27.Rxd4 Bxd4 28.Be4
Oct-17-09  costachess: ...
...
I think that the best black move is

20. ... h6

If 21. Nf7+ the black answer is Kg8

Oct-17-09  WhiteRook48: 30 Rh3!
Oct-18-09  m0nkee1: is too complex for me to understand...
but was 14.. g5 a mistake? seems like Carlsens position collapsed from an attack he started?
Oct-19-09  dannygjk: Thanks RandomVisitor, I see after further study of the position, it looks hopeless from move 24. So I looked at move 23 and 23...b6 resulted in a position with R, B, 4 P vs. r, b, 3 p. White's extra P a passed P on f-file. Even there, a struggle for Black to draw. Most likely a white win, but maybe hope if black can force exchange of the R's.
Oct-19-09
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  kevin86: East Tennessee basketball fans would quote Caeser saying:

ETSU,Brute?

(in memory of Seth Coy)

Dec-23-15
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  Biroldo: Cuban chess is one of the strongest in America and the world as well...with Bruzon, Dominguez and several others already approaching the 2,800 rating barrier.
Feb-10-18  Pedro Fernandez: Here SF8 announces 30.Rxb7 (no 30.Rh3), threatening the mortal 31.Rxh7+ and mate in twelve.


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Jul-31-20
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  Predrag3141: For the puzzle of the day I analyzed 24 Rf5 Rxf5, where Black tries to stay a piece up. That looked like a win for White, because the mate threat forces Black to move his bishop, when Bxc6 threatens Rd8; and Black can't respond with ... Bxg5 without dropping his rook to Qe5+. For example, 24 Rf5 Rxf5 25 Qf5 Bf6 26 Bxc6 Bxg5 27 Qe5+ Bf6 28 Qxb8 Qxe6 29 Bxb7, winding up a rook ahead. Carlsen must have seen this easily and scuttled my plan with 24 ... Bxe6. I gamely forged ahead and guessed move by move through 27 Be4.
Jul-31-20
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  hoodrobin: Nice pun!
Jul-31-20
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Didn't solve this one. That 22.Kh1 deserves closer attention; somehow, Bruzon knew he had to get his King out of the way *before* Black played 27...Rg8.
Jul-31-20
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  agb2002: White has two pawns for a bishop.

Black threatens Bxe5.

The only option I can find is 24.Rf5, threatening Rxf4:

A) 24... Rd4 25.Rxd4 Nxd4 (25... Bxd4 26.Rf7 looks winning) 26.Rxf7 Bxe6 (26... Qe8 27.Qe4 wins) 27.Rxe7 Bxd5 28.Bxd5 looks very good for White.

B) 24... Bxe6 25.Nxe6 recovers the piece with the better position. However, after 25... Nb4 26.Qc5 Qxc5 (26... Qxe6 27.Rxf4) 27.Rxc5 Rxf2 the position is unclear.

Jul-31-20  Brenin: After the exchanges starting with 14 ... g5!, Lazaro's position was gradually dying. Then Magnus's curious manoeuvre 21 ... Nd4, 22 ... Rb8, 24 ... Nc6 raised it from the not-quite-dead. The finish was a good example of how opposite coloured bishops can improve the chances of a successful attack.
Jul-31-20  Walter Glattke: C) 24.Nf7+ Kg8 25.Qd8+ Nxd8 26.Rxd8+ Qxd8 27.Nxd8 Bxe5 28.e7 Bd7 29.Bd5+Kg7 hopeless, also 25.Qc5 or 25.Rg5/Rf5 25.-Bxe6! But 24.Rf5 Bxe6 25.Nxe6 Nb4! is the help , so discovery check fails by NxQ. 0.87, Stockfish would say.
Jul-31-20  TheaN: I lost way too much time looking at an alternative that doesn't exist: I thought White could start the mating threats immediately with 24.Qd3? but as for Monday's defense for Black (that he didn't play) 24....Bxe5 -+ and White's completely down and out (given that 24....Kg8 25.Qxh7+ +-, 24....Rh4 25.Qg3 +-, so there's some merit to the idea).

Then it really just leaves <24.Rf5>; bit of a letdown, as you get forced into this path by virtue of no practical alternative, realizing swiftly afterwards it works and everything else loses terribly. The point is 24....Rxf5 25.Qxf5 ± and now the mate threat on h7 <is> an actual problem. Black can cope with 25....Bf6 where White will have to resort to 26.Nxh7 (no time for 26.Bxc6 Bxe6 ⩲) Bxe6 27.Qxf6+ Qxf6 28.Nxf6 Rf8 29.Ne4 ± with a pleasant endgame.

Of course, <24....Bxe6> seems more resilient. <25.Nxe6> Black must be wary not to level material with 25....Rxf5 26.Qxf5 Bxb2 27.Be4 +- as per game, as this costs more than Black bargains for; I hadn't seen this line in its entirety but it looked messy at a glance. After <25....Nb4 ⩲> both colors solved their perils and an interesting game follows.

Jul-31-20  cormier: 23...Nc6. better is 23...Bxe6 24.Nxe6 Nxe6 25.Rxe6 Qf7 26.Qd6 Rg8 27.Re7 Qh5 = +0.14 (25 ply)
Jul-31-20  saturn2: I looked at 24. Rf5 Rxf5 (Bxe6 25. Nxe6 Rxf5 26. Qxf5 and white has strong attack) 25. Qxf5 Bf6 26. Nf7+ Kg7 27. Qg4+ Kf8 28. Bxc6 - bxc6 29. Rd8+ 1-0
Jul-31-20
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  Jimfromprovidence: After the text 24 Rf5 Bxe6 25 Nxe6 comes this keen observation...

<TheaN> <After <25....Nb4 > both colors solved their perils and an interesting game follows.>>

Here is the position after 24 Rf5 Bxe6 25 Nxe6 Nb4.


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The position is so dynamic. If white follows with 26 Qc5, below, does black trade queens or take the knight and have better attacking chances, knowing he will lose his rook in the exchange?


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Jul-31-20  Diana Fernanda: https://www.google.com/search?q=ban...
Jul-31-20  Brenin: <Jimfromprovidence> After 25 ... Nb4 26 Qc5, it's a delicate choice for Black:

a) On best play 26 ... Qxc5 leads to 27 Rxc5 Rxf2 28 Nxg7 Kxg7 29 Rc7+ Rf7 30 Rdd7 Rxd7 31 Rxd7+ Kg6 32 Be4+ Kg5 33 a3 Nc6 34 Bxh7; B is a P down, and with N+R v B+R will have to fight for the draw.

b) 26 ... Qxe6 leads to 27 Rxf4 Nd3 28 Qxa7 (28 Rxd3 Qe1+ and mate) Qd6 (threat Nxf2+) 29 Rxd3 Qxf4 (threat Qc1+) 30 Qe3 Qxe3 31 fxe3 Bxb2 32 Rb3 Bc1; Black is again a P down, but with Bs of opposite colours has drawing chances.

From Black's point of view, SF has a slight preference for (a), but as a human being I think I'd prefer (b) as the more active line leading to the more defendable end-game.

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