Aug-20-07 | | beginner64: 33 e5 really calls for ..Rxc4.
35..g5 really does nothing for black. |
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Dec-08-14 | | TheFocus: From a simul at the Wien Chess Club in Vienna, Austria on December 20, 1908. Lasker scored +13=1-2. |
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Oct-01-15 | | thomastonk: <beginner64> 33.. ♖xc4? 34.bxc4 .33.e5 threatens 34.exf6 ♕xf6 35.♗e5. Black can prevent this by 33.. ♖c5 or 33.. ♖e8, and he is still in the game. 33.. f5 34.♗h4! was another idea of Lasker. At least ♗h4 is prevented by 33.. g5, but it loses as seen above. |
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Jun-10-25
 | | mifralu: This game was also published in the <Berliner Morgenpost, January 17, 1909.> Black here, however, is not R Schwarz, but Savielly Tartakower. <Whyld 1998, p. 140,> cites< "Lasker's Chess Magazine, vol. IX, p. 44"> as the source. <On December 20, Dr. Lasker competed against 16 players simultaneously. After four hours, the world champion recorded 13 wins and two losses against J. Krejcik and <S. Tartakower.>
https://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/... > Does anyone know more? |
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Jun-10-25 | | stone free or die: <<mifralu> This game was also published in the <Berliner Morgenpost, January 17, 1909.>
Black here, however, is not R Schwarz, but Savielly Tartakower. <Whyld 1998, p. 140,> cites< "Lasker's Chess Magazine, vol. IX, p. 44"> as the source.> Sorry <mifralu>, but I don't quite understand exactly what you're saying here - as far as who said what. But avoiding the detailed parsing, it seems you're suggesting Black is <Tartakower> and not <Schwarz>, correct? Yet this is a <Lasker> win, not loss, so why? Maybe I need to check <Wayback> to see if <CG> had the game as a loss previously... |
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Jun-10-25 | | stone free or die: Again, being my usual pedant, the Anno link is nice to have, but it's lacking the navigation content - making it hard to read the next page and get other info about the volume, etc. I prefer this link:
https://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/... (I stripped off the unnecessary tracking part of the url (&qid=xxxx...) from my Anno search url.) * * * * *
Warning - <Nerd details> - I've just noted that mifralu's link has the info embedded in his url: < https://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/annoshow--
plus?call=sze|1909|0004|3||jpg||O| >
The magazine is <sze>, the volume, <1909> and the page is <3>. So one could modify the url by substituting 4 for the page to get the rest of the article. But, me not speaking German, I need the text button navigation to pull up the text for Google translate. So I need the other more versatile link given above. |
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Jun-10-25 | | stone free or die: With that side trip out of the way - Renette's Lasker biography has the game given above on p652 (G-1130) which he sources as <NY Evening Post 1909-01-09> with Lasker credited (annotator?, contributor?, columnist?, something). And to be explicit - Renette has it as <Lasker--Schwarz>. |
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Jun-10-25 | | stone free or die: I see, the <Berliner Morgenpost> 1909-01-17 p13 does give it as <Lasker--Tartakower> https://dfg-viewer.de/show?tx_dlf%5... but with Lasker winning as White, contradicting the WSZ reportage that Tartakower won his simul game. |
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Jun-10-25 | | stone free or die: It might also be noted that Lasker's main purpose for his Vienna visit was to discuss his match with Schlechter, according to Renette. Rothschild attended the Dec 19, 1908 session. |
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Jun-10-25
 | | jnpope: <stone free or die: <NY Evening Post 1909-01-09>
with Lasker credited (annotator?, contributor?, columnist?, something).>
Yes to all of the above.
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New York <Evening Post>, 1909.01.09, p7:
<On the second day of my visit to Vienna, I had the satisfaction of seeing the interest of the club members in my performances take an upward turn. The old game is after all entertaining. The habitué is "blasé" only as long as he is treated to old themes. A novel combination or an original plan of campaign draws him on immediately. A strong team presented itself for the simultaneous séance, among them Mr. Tartakower, a master of international repute, and Mr. Reginald Schwarz, counted as strong as the master. My game with him was followed by all present with attention.>
Game follows with Lasker's annotations.
<Of fifteen games played on that occasion I won twelve, drew one, with Baron von Döry, and lost to Tartakower and Reti.>
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I'm not sure what to make of the <Berliner Morgenpost>'s report. *shrug* |
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Jun-10-25 | | stone free or die: <<jn> and Reti.> ?!! Can you please doublecheck that? |
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Jun-10-25
 | | jnpope: http://www.chessarch.com/excavation... I'll check for a retraction/correction in later columns. |
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Jun-10-25
 | | jnpope: No retraction/correction given in the remaining columns for the month of January. |
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Jun-10-25
 | | jnpope: Krejcik did play Lasker the day before (as given in the column), so I can't imagine Lasker got the name of his opponent wrong in the simul results. |
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Jun-10-25 | | stone free or die: <jnpope: Krejcik did play Lasker the day before (as given in the column), so I can't imagine Lasker got the name of his opponent wrong in the simul results.> Do you really think a Reti victory over Lasker won't make it into the canon? |
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Jun-10-25 | | stone free or die: Another contemporaneous source of <Krejcik> and <Tartakower>: https://books.google.com/books?id=o... Of course, it's from March and might just be echoing the WSZ reportage. |
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Jun-11-25
 | | jnpope: <jnpope: Krejcik did play Lasker the day before (as given in the column), so I can't imagine Lasker got the name of his opponent wrong in the simul results.> Considering the Lasker-Krejcik simul game exists, it would appear Lasker was mistaken. Renette appears to explain this in his Lasker book (without actually explaining it). The Krejcik game given in the <Evening Post> is actually the Reti-Lasker game; Krejcik would publish his game in <Wiener Schachzeitung>, October 1924. It appears Lasker had confused Krejcik and Reti when writing his report for the <Evening Post>. Swap the names and everything falls into place. |
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Jun-11-25
 | | jnpope: This puzzle forced me to break out my Renette books from their shrink wrap. ;-P |
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Jun-11-25 | | stone free or die: Guess we all make mistakes! |
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