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M R Quinault vs Emanuel Lasker
Simul, 20b (1904) (exhibition), London ENG, Feb-06
Four Knights Game: Italian Variation (C50)  ·  0-1



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Dec-31-13  Kinghunt: <Cheapo by the Dozen> If 25. Kg1, 25...Qh4 looks crushing. No good defense against Rh1#.
Dec-31-13  Cheapo by the Dozen: Yeah. Upon review:

25 Kg1 Rh1+ leads to material gain, either in a return to the main line or even more after 26 Kf2.

But 25 ... Qh4 is indeed even more devastating.

Dec-31-13  cocker: Note to <Seaholme> & <Cheapo by the Dozen>: 25 Kg1 Rh1+ does not win. White escapes with Nh4 and Rh2.
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  morfishine: After <24...Rxh2+> Black nets a clear material advantage: 25.Kxh2 Qh6+ 26.Kg1 Nh3+ 27.Kh1 Ng5+ 28.Kg1 Nxf3+

I only looked at one other candidate, <24...Qh6> being answered by 25.Ne1


Dec-31-13  gofer: <24 ... Rxh2+>

25 Kg1 Qh4 mating

<25 Kxh2 Qh6+>
<26 Kg1 Nh3+>
<27 Kh1/h2 Ng5+>
<28 Kg1 Nxf3+>
<29 Rxf3>


Yep, but still some work left for black to seal the win... ...I don't think I would have seen this combination OTB...

Dec-31-13  diagonalley: NO WAY was this "easy"... would be tricky even for a wednesday
Dec-31-13  M.Hassan: <FSR: it seems that you must have been analyzing the position as though White's king were on g1 rather than h1.>

You hit the point! Thank you. I put the King on g1 on my practice board without checking again. No credit for me on Tuesday :)

Dec-31-13  Cheapo by the Dozen: <cocker> makes a good point. There's a meaningful difference between having the king at h1 and h2.
Dec-31-13  zb2cr: so okay, I saw the win of material after 24. ... Rxh2+; 25. Kxh2, Qh6+; 26. Kg1, Nh3+. It looks to me as if White's Pawns fall and then Black can march a Pawn in for a Queen. Not straightforward, but simple in concept.
Dec-31-13  WoodPushkin: Greetings

Whites 23rd move destroyed an otherwise even position. The double x-ray may have appeared scary but here we see that analysis beats hard/fast rules. The simple 23.fe5 retains balance and tension with the possible queen exchange and Whites problems are over.

24...Rh2+! answers the puzzle and initiates the winning sequence.

An easy start to the puzzle but Blacks 28th move is the real puzzle...

Correct continuations are not always easy to find. The fireworks are over and it's back to position! I've drawn too many games after I win a combination but blow the follow-up. Looking for ways to crush the opponent I missed quiet moves which end up being the real knockout.

Having said that it strikes me that

28...Qxd3 is the exciting find.

Connected passed pawns decide the game. Of course don't forget luft or air for the king and elimination of back rank mates.

Analysis Calculation Execution: Study!


Dec-31-13  Patriot: 24...Rxh2+

25.Kxh2 Rh8+ 26.Kg1 Nh3+ 27.Kh2 Ng5+

25.Kg1 Qh4

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  Penguincw: This not the easiest Tuesday puzzle I've ever seen.
Dec-31-13  Patriot: Wow I really botched this one. 26...Nh3+ 27.Qxh3
Dec-31-13  LoveThatJoker: Not an easy puzzle, imho.

<24...Rxh2+ 25. Kxh2 Qh8+>

(25...Qh6+ works as well)

<26. Kg1 Nh3+ 27. Qxh3>




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  kevin86: White loses his queen or gets mated.
Dec-31-13  PJs Studio: 24...Rh3 is slower but definitely winning. In problem positions like this, the less violent solutions (than Rxh2!) are rarely the answer. I spent all my time here on the forcing lines after 24...Rxh2. Never considered 24...Rh3 - - however OTB? Rh3 works nicely.
Dec-31-13  RandomVisitor: After 21.fxe5 Qxe5 white appears to blunt the attack

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Rybka 4.1 x64:

<[-0.13] d=19 22.Nxh4> Nxh4 23.gxh4 Rxh4 24.Rxf7 g3 25.Qf3 gxh2+ 26.Kh1 Rc8 27.Rf8 Rh8 28.Rxc8+ Rxc8 29.Rg2 Qe6 30.Rg5 a6 31.Qg4 Qh6 32.Qh5 Qf6 33.Rf5 Qc6 34.Qxh2 Qa4

[-0.13] d=19 22.gxh4 Nxh4 23.Nxh4 Rxh4 24.Rxf7 g3 25.Qf3 gxh2+ 26.Kh1 Rc8 27.Rf8 Rh8 28.Rxc8+ Rxc8 29.Rg2 Qe6 30.Rg5 a6 31.Qg4 Qh6 32.Qh5 Qf6 33.Rf5 Qc6 34.Qxh2 Qa4

Dec-31-13  RandomVisitor: After 20.f3 perhaps white has a small advantage

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Rybka 4.1 x64:

<[+0.27] d=19 20...Qg5> 21.fxg4 hxg4 22.Rf5 Qh6 23.Ne1 Rdg8 24.Raf2 Qe3 25.Nc2 Qh6 26.Rxf7 Nf4 27.Kh1 Nh5 28.Qg1 Rf8 29.R7f5 Rxf5 30.Rxf5 Ng7 31.Rxe5 Qf6

[+0.27] d=19 20...Qe6 21.fxg4 hxg4 22.Raf2 Rh7 23.Rf6 Qd7 24.Ne1 Rg8 25.R1f5 Rgh8 26.Rf2 Qe7 27.R6f5 f6 28.Qxg4 Nf4 29.R5xf4 exf4 30.Qxf4 a6 31.Nf3 Rd8 32.Nd2 Rdh8 33.Nb3 Qe5 34.Qxe5 fxe5 35.Nd2

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  agb2002: The material is identical.

White threatens 25.Nxf4.

The square h2 is momentarily weak. This suggests 24... Rxh2+, exposing the white king:

A) 25.Kxh2 Qh6+ 26.Kg1 (26.Nh4 Qxh4+ 27.Qh3 Qxh3#) 26... Nh3+

A.1) 27.Qxh3 Qxh3 28.Rd2 (28.Rxf7 Qxd3) 28... Rg7 - + [Q+P vs R+N].

A.2) 27.Kh1(2) Ng5+ 28.Kg1 Nxf3+ 29.Rxf3 Qc1+ 30.Kh2 (30.Rf1 Qe3+ and 31... Qxd3; 30.Kf2 Qh1 31.Rg3 Rxg3 32.Kxg3 Qd1 followed by Qxd3) 30... Rh8+ - + [Q+P vs R+N].

B) 25.Kg1 Qh4 (25... Rhxg2+ 26.Rxg2 Rxg2+ 27.Qxg2 Nxg2 28.Rxf6 + -) and mate soon.

Dec-31-13  Amadori: <Rh3 works nicely>

What's the continuation? I see 25.Qd1 Rxd3, (..or perpetual+ after 25...Rxh2)?

Dec-31-13  M.Hassan: <FSR>: Happy New Year to you and other kibitzers
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  morfishine: <LoveThatJoker> Very nice, I didn't see 25...Qh8+

All roads lead to Rome, with an emphasis here on 'roads'


Dec-31-13  Nullifidian: Since it's Tuesday, I looked for a mate, but I couldn't find one so I was left with the next best thing.

24... ♖xh2+ 25. ♔xh2 ♕h6/h8+) 26. ♔g1 ♘h3+ and White has the choice of either playing the immediate 27. ♕xh3 or ♔h1/2 with Black's ♘g5+ and ♘xf3 to follow.

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  FSR: <M.Hassan> Happy New Year to you too!
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  TheFocus: From a simul at the Metropolitan Chess club in London, England on February 6, 1904.

Lasker scored +19=1-0.

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