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|Feb-06-06|| ||Cogano: It seems I was under the mistaken impression that White was winning. So if Black won, where did White go wrong?
I'm not famaliar with this opening, so that obviously makes things more difficult. Thanks for your anticipated help. Take very good care & have a great day. Cheers!|
|Feb-06-06|| ||dakgootje: A brilliant game, one of the more exciting ones ive seen here in a while, great pun too!|
|Feb-06-06|| ||EmperorAtahualpa: Very nice game! I'm amazed to see nobody of us found this game before <chessgames.com> did.|
I actually didn't get the pun first. Obviously I saw to which establishment in Paris the pun is referring to, but didn't get why the spelling was "Ruse" rather than "Rouge"..
So I looked up "ruse" to see if it was in the dictionary and it turns out to be an English word that means as much as a "cunning trick" or a "stratagem".
This little bit of info might be useful for the other non-native speakers around here. :)
So, <chessgames.com>, my compliments to the pun, and thanks also for improving my English. :)
|Feb-06-06|| ||joeaverage: <Ger7ry Would 16 Nb3 give him a shot?> 16...Qxa2# would be the reply, right?|
<So, what was White's last chance to hold the game here?>
Since white has mate in 2, Rxa2+ followed by Qb2#, black appears to have lost the game. The only stalling move to me is probably Qxc3 which gives black the mate in 3 moves instead of 2.
White was just a move or two behind black to win (e.g., Bxf8 followed by Rxf7 Nxf7 followed up with Qf6 threatening mate.
|Feb-06-06|| ||kevin86: Both white and black have far advanced pawns;the difference is that while black's pawn is used to augment the attack and in fact,has the power of a piece-white's pawn only succeeds at gumming up white's attack and rendering it useless.|
White's pawn has the same effect as the Maginot line had in the Second World War:it perfectly protected the GERMANS-not the French,as it was intended.
|Feb-06-06|| ||Castle In The Sky: A very nice miniature.|
|Feb-06-06|| ||psmith: <joeaverage> You appear to have mixed up the number 16 and the number 19. The question was about 16. Nb3 not 19. Nb3.|
<Ger7ry> But after 16. Nb3 Black can just play Nxf6 17. Rxf6 a5 when White has no real attack and if White doesn't stop him Black will just push a4 and then take the b-pawn with his Rook. White can block this with 18. Rd3 (to take the pawn on c3 in response to ...a4) but then Black has 18... Qd8 19. Rf4 e5 winning easily.
|Feb-06-06|| ||cuendillar: I did get this pun, but all too often I feel that I just have no idea what the pun is about, especially when it's a song text or the like. Could <chessgames.com> add a "pun explanation" link on the GOTDs? I very much doubt I'm alone with this problem.|
|Feb-06-06|| ||joeaverage: <psmith and Ger7ry>
You're right. I mixed up 16 and 19.|
|Feb-06-06|| ||hintza: Quality pun.|
|Feb-06-06|| ||Steppenwolf: 18...Qa3! is really nice. I was trying to figure out 18...Ne5!? 19. Qe2 Bd7 (with the idea of Rb8) but although it works, it is much slower, and therefore useless.|
|Feb-06-06|| ||schnarre: ...Rxa2+ is pretty much curtains, regardless of what White tries next.|
Good pun too!
|Feb-06-06|| ||morpstau: I like this game because black calmly defends than counter attacks whites naked king.|
|Feb-06-06|| ||Peter Reeve: What about 16.Nb5 ?
|Feb-07-06|| ||schnarre: After 16. Nb5 Rxb5, 17. Bxb5 Bxf6 I'd still take my chances with Black.|
|Feb-07-06|| ||Cyphelium: <Schnarre> After 16. ♘b5 ♖xb5 17. ♗xb5 ♗xf6, white can play 18. ♗xd7, which doesn't seem so clear. 18.- ♗e5 (18.- ♗xd7? 19. ♖xf6) 19. ♗xc8 ♖xc8 will give black some compensation, but white seems to be in the game as well. For example 20. ♖g4 ♖b8 21. b3 ♕a5 22. ♕e3 etc. Or 20.- cxb2 21. ♕d3 ♕a5 22. f4 ♖c3 23. ♕d2 ♗f6 24. ♖g3.
So instead of 17.- ♗xf6, capturing with the knight seem better. Both 17.- ♘xf6 18. ♗a4 ♘d7 and 18. ♖xf6 axb5 looks very good for black.|
|Feb-08-06|| ||schnarre: <Cyphelium> Good analysis!|
|Feb-08-06|| ||Cogano: Hi <schnarre> & I sincerely hope this finds you well. Forgive me for imposing
upon you. But everyone seems to have just ignored my request & I thought you
may be able to help me. It seems I was under the mistaken impression that White was winning. So if Black won, where did White go wrong? I'm not familiar with this opening, so that obviously makes things more difficult. Thanks for your anticipated help. Take very good care & have a great day. Cheers mate!|
|Feb-08-06|| ||tpstar: <Cogano> It would be better to say your question was avoided rather than ignored, because in all fairness analyzing the specific factors behind a loss becomes very complicated. Be sure to review the entire kibitzing each time to avoid repetition, which I'm sure you did. =)|
The first 6 moves are all "book" = standard Sicilian Najdorf theory, then 6. Bg5 (Richter-Rauzer) and 6 ... e6 (versatile response). 7. Qf3 is an uncommon continuation versus 7. f4 Opening Explorer - far more games continue 7. f4 Be7 8. Qf3, or 7. f4 Qb6 8. Qd2 (Poisoned Pawn). Many lines of the Sicilian feature castling on opposite wings, leading to a tense game where the attack which hits home first wins. Therefore White's plan of 9. h4 + 10. h5 + 10. h6 took 3 moves but also served to close lines toward Black's King which worked in Black's favor. Note the 2 moves spent on 13. Rh4 + 14. Rf4 were counterbalanced by 13 ... b5 + 14 ... b4 gaining space on Black's Queenside. Now White must take time out for defense with 15. Na4 or 15. Nce2, since 15. Bxf6?! lost quickly to 15 ... bxc3 and the speedy attack against White's King worked.
One surefire way to improve is to treat the final position as a puzzle to be solved, then post your own analysis of the winning lines. Many times amazing defensive resources are discovered or at least discussed through our (amateur) kibitzing. Good luck. =)
|Feb-09-06|| ||Cogano: Hi <tpstar> & I sincerely hope this finds you well. First, thank you most kindly for the explanation. Second, I can only conclude that it is your opinion that other kibbitzers already sort of addressed my request, even if indirectly, & thus you have my sincerest apologies for the inconvenience. Further, considering my inexperience & lack of chess reading (openings, endgames etc.), you might also want to consider the fact that it may not be particularly clear to me, from other kibitzers' analyses exactly how, &, more important, when, a particular player went wrong. If there is anything that I've learned since I joined chessgames.com is that to be fair & accurate in assessing such a question as mine, one needs to have an impeccable positional understanding, as
well as a decent understanding of openings, endgames, strategy & tactics,
for they, combined, produce the various
positions in a given game, as well as account for a player's failure or success! Thank you again for all your help, & for having taken time to offer me that help in the first place. Take very good care & have yourself a most joyous day, every day. Cheers mate!
|Feb-09-06|| ||schnarre: <Cogano> One of the best things about this site is the volume of good ideas from those here! Virtually every kibitz worth of analysis could fill volumes, & feel free to ask away!
|Feb-09-06|| ||Cogano: <schnarre> Thank you kindly for your gracious words. They are sincerely appreciated. Take very good care & have
a great day! Cheers mate!|
|Feb-10-06|| ||schnarre: <Cogano> You too mate!|
|May-14-06|| ||DeepBlade: Dont let that nasty black b-pawn break throu!!
This is the general idea of black playing the Sicilian.
13.Rh4 and 14.Rf4 is a waste of time space. Looks like the amateur is developing his Rook via the corner instead of the center.
White didnt had a serious attack nor threat, and Black simply continued his plan.
|Feb-15-12|| ||PinnedPiece: GTM Score 22, par 20.
Lost my nerve in the last few moves, Pierre didn't!
I did not see 18..Qa3
Yet this move would probably qualify as a Monday or Tues puzzle....
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