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Daniel Edelman vs John A Curdo
Connecticut State Championship (1983), Hartford, CT USA, Jul-23
Scotch Game: Scotch Gambit. Advance Variation (C45)  ·  0-1

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Apr-12-21
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  al wazir: Practically any active move wins.

For example, 20...Rxf3+ 21. Kxf3 (21. Ke2 Rexe3+ 22. Qxe3 Qxe3#) Qg4+ 22. Kf2 Rf8#

Apr-12-21  Walter Glattke: 20.-Rxf3 is best, 20.-Bh3 pittoresque, 21.Rg1 (ahr gee one) Bxe3+ much more fun, good for a poem, several win possibilities with useless counter threatenings.
Apr-12-21
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  agb2002: Black has a bishop and a pawn for both knights.

All black pieces aim at the white king. This suggests 20... Rxf3+:

A) 21.Kxf3 Qg4+ 22.Kf2 Rf8#.

B) 21.Ke2 Rexe3+ 22.Qxe3 Qxe3#.

Apr-12-21  mel gibson: Rxf3 is fastest.
Apr-12-21  sudoplatov: I had 20...Rxf3+ , 21.Kxf3 Qg4, 22.Kf2 Rf8 mate, so I didn't look any further.
Apr-12-21  lost in space: I also found 20...Rxf3 as best continuation
Apr-12-21  Brenin: The broadsword 20 ... Rxf3+ or the stiletto 20 ... Bh3? Both lead to mate in a few moves. I chose the quicker and more obvious Rxf3+.
Apr-12-21  AlicesKnight: I found ....Bh3 before seeing ....Rxf3+ -an interesting tie of White's forces to the e3 focus with other White pieces off-sided.
Apr-12-21
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  OhioChessFan: Not to mention the simple 20...Qh4+
Apr-12-21
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  WorstPlayerEver: I had Rxf3. Best option.
Apr-12-21  mel gibson: <Apr-12-21
Premium Chessgames Member OhioChessFan: Not to mention the simple 20...Qh4+>

That is false.

Apr-12-21  awfulhangover: 20.-Rf3+ faster than 20.-Bh3
Apr-12-21  TheaN: I really only saw <20....Rxf3+ 21.Kxf3 Qg4+ 22.Kf2 Rf8#>, although I have to admit it required me to look at this twice to see Rf8 was actually mate; Be3 is of course still pinned. Bh3 is cute and follows a clear plan, but is not faster
Apr-12-21  Walter Glattke: 20.-Qh4+ seems to win after 21.Ke2 Qxh2+ 22.Kd3 Bf5+ 23.Kc4 Qh4+ 24.f4 but defense there 21.-Rxe3+ 22.Qxe3 Bxe3 23.Kxe3 Qxa4 24.Rxd7 -+

B) 21.Kg1 Bxe3+ 22.Rxe3 Qg5+ 23.Kf2 Bh3 24.Rg1 Rxf3+!? 25.Kxf3 Rf8+ unclear

Apr-12-21
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  chrisowen: Rupture key i reckon Rxf3 flushy abridge key i axled it ago quo key a Bh3 honors bluff frazzled it cool hack key in rupture haunts ie keys famous bandjob key i holycow it low in quods key in rupture luv its old hat key divots melly crown flip key occult it deed in dug a fanciful ha cool Rxf3 ear Bh3 mitigate!
Apr-12-21  DrGridlock: Rxf3 -- mate in 3
Bh3 -- mate in 6

You choose which is the "correct" solution!

Apr-12-21
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  chancho: As noted above, this game <move for move> was played three years earlier vs Joel Johnson in 1980.

So basically, Curdo missed mate in three... twice:

J Johnson vs J A Curdo, 1980

Apr-12-21  TheaN: A lot of White players do underestimate this line for Black, which is a very practical one and kind of defuses the Scotch and Two Knights. A club member is very adapt at the Urusov, but I simply avoid it with Nc6 and have been very successful in the resulting lines. White's simply no longer better after 5.e5 d5, as Black has been able to play d5 without real concessions.
Apr-12-21  johnnydeep: I chose the game move of the bishop first, but it being Monday, opted for the Rook sack instead!
Apr-12-21
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  HeMateMe: I thought Rxf3 blows up the position faster.
Apr-12-21  RandomVisitor: 18.b4 keeps white in the game:


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Stockfish_21040618_x64_modern:

<45/80 8:37 +0.12 18...Bxd4 19.Bxd4 Qg6> 20.Kh1 Rxe1+ 21.Rxe1 Rxf3 22.gxf3 Nxf3 23.Qe3 Nxe1 24.Qxe1 Qh5 25.Qe5 Qd1+ 26.Kg2 Qxc2+ 27.Kg3 Qd3+ 28.Qe3 Qg6+

45/64 8:37 +0.13 18...Qg6 19.Kh1 Bxd4 20.Bxd4 Rxe1+ 21.Rxe1 Rxf3 22.gxf3 Nxf3 23.Qe3 Nxe1 24.Qxe1 Qh5 25.Qe5 Qd1+ 26.Kg2 Qxc2+ 27.Kg3 Qd3+ 28.Qe3 Qg6+

45/65 8:37 +0.45 18...Nf7 19.Nc5 Ne5 20.Qc3 Bf5 21.Bf2 Nc4 22.Rxe8 Rxe8 23.Re1 Rf8 24.Qb3 a5 25.Qa4 axb4 26.Qxc6 Qxc6 27.Nxc6 Na3 28.Rc1 Bxc2

Apr-12-21
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  drollere: i had 20...Rxf3+, 21. Ke2 Rexe3+, 22. Qxe3 Qxe3#
Apr-12-21
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  eternaloptimist: I chose 20...♖xf3+ like most of u guys did. Itís better than Curdoís move 20...♗h3 & Iím surprised that some1 of his playing strength (FM) didnít see it
Apr-12-21
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  chancho: Another line: 20...Rxf3+ 21.Ke2 Rfxe3+ 22.Kf1 Rf3+ 23.Qf2 Rxf2#
Apr-14-21
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  gawain: I saw the mate starting with 20...Rf3+

Did not see 20...Bh3.

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