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Peter Svidler vs Veselin Topalov
"Saavedra Revisited" (game of the day Nov-30-2016)
Morelia-Linares (2006), Morelia MEX, rd 1, Feb-18
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1-0

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Feb-19-06  hitman84: <EA>atleast u stayed up for 40 moves i just dont believe i missed this game : -(

well nice start for my predicted champion!!

Feb-19-06  Morphy1974: <Maybe Peter Svidler is the real champ> Svidler - world champion? Maybe some day. But this is Linares 2006 Tournament, not the World Championship. Who will win this tournament? We will see. There are 13 rounds ahead. Topalov can recover fast. I am sure that THE WORLD CHAMPION will show us some good games. To win a tournament someone need to play well all the tournament. Could Svidler do this?
Feb-19-06  ahmadov: When analysing this game with Fritz, one can see how perfectly Svidler played this game, especially the ending.
Feb-19-06  Morphy1974: Topalov had chosen variation, which is, in my oppinion, not suitable for his style. He defended almost all the time, but his position was 'stable bad'. Excellent performance by Svidler.
Feb-19-06  Fan of Leko: Topalov I thought was OK most of the game. But I agree it is strange to see such a talented tactical player choose a line that goes right into the ending.
Feb-19-06  alicefujimori: After doing some analysis with some help from Fritz, I am very please to say that both sides had played the game quite perfectly. There were some moves that Fritz had considered to be better, like a possible c3 idea by black around move 24-25. But the resulting analysis is quite complex and there were still no clear indication as to which side would of been better.

The only move, which I believe to had made Topalov fall was his 42nd move. Instead of 42...bxa4, Topalov could of tried 42...Bd6 with the idea of repeating Kd7-Ke6-Kf7 if white's rook moves away from the e-file. If white plays 43.Bf4 then 43...Bxf4 44.Kxf4 Rh5 and now the idea 45.Re5 as in the game fails because of black's king been one square closer to the f-pawn than in the actual game.

Another interesting variation is on Black's 32nd move. Instead of 32...Kg8, 32...Bd7 is also possible. An example variation runs 33.Rd2 Re8 34.Ne4 Rd5 35.Nxc5 Rxe1 36.Rxd5 cxd5 37.Nxd7+ Ke8 38.Nb6 Rb1 39.Nxd5 Kd7 and Black's position isn't bad at all.

Anyway, credit to both players and especially to Svidler for beating Topalov AND cracking the Berlin Wall.

Feb-19-06  McCool: Nice read by white on the end game.
Feb-19-06
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  ganstaman: What was the point of 17...Rh5? It looks to me to be a horrible position for the rook to be in, and I don't see what it protects or threatens. Isn't there some better move? (maybe Nc4, or the somewhat ugly but uncramping gxf6)
Feb-19-06  Kangaroo: To <alicefujimori:>

Regarding your suggestion, <42 ... Bd6> - the comments in Russian by <IM Max Notkin> are reproduced here.

<42...Bd6 43.Ra1 Bc7 44.Rd1+ Ke6 45.Re1+ Kd7 46.Bc1

<if <46...Rh5> then <47.Re7+>>

46...Bd6 47.Kg5 Rh5+ 48.Kxg6 Rxh4 49.f7>

Feb-19-06  CapablancaFan: <ganstaman><What was the point of 17...Rh5? It looks to me to be a horrible position for the rook to be in> Actually, if you take a closer look, you would find that Topalov almost had no choice but to try this. Remember when Svidler played 8.Qxd8+ Topa's king was forced to recapture with the result being he gives up the right to castle. Svidler then stacks his rooks on the d - file leaving the h - rook virtually with no way out. I believe because of those circumstances that Topa was trying to release his rook via the h - file and then by rank 5. Unfourtunately for Topa, Svidler did a remarkable job of blockading this rook to make sure that never happened. Topa was basically thrown on the defence almost from the start and never got a chance to get to his feet.
Feb-19-06
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  ganstaman: <CapablancaFan> Thanks. Now that I look at it that way, I see that after Rh5, Svidler keeps the rook from leaving the h-file (so his moves were probably at least in part for this purpose).

However, I still think that Topa should have left the rook on h8 and attempt to connect his rooks on the back rank where they could have countered Svidler's rooks. This would have required Topa's king to make his way to the queenside and hide behind a few pawns, and I guess this might have been difficult.

How would you respond to 17...Nc4, though? I think that this move would 1)attack white's bishop, 2)avoid getting his knight pinned against his king, and 3)allow black's king to make that march to the queenside over the next few moves. I think an eventual fxg7 by white or gxf6 by black allows black to move Bg7, bringing the rooks one step closer to each other.

That would have been my plan, at least. But I'm no world champion, and I do have the power of hindsight (to see that the rook on h5 gets stuck and does very little for a while -- or at least so I think).

Feb-19-06  gulliver: Can someone please explain Topa's
31 st move ? Why 31.. Be6 ?
Feb-19-06  Resignation Trap: Everybody knows that Svidler and Kramnik train together. And since the Berlin Wall is Kramnik's pet line, wasn't it a bit surprising for Topalov to rush right into it?
Feb-19-06  Jim Bartle: No, the surprise was that Topalov forgot to sacrifice the exchange.
Feb-19-06  SanChess: <Jim Bartle> Yeah! He managed to get the pair of bishops, though, but to no avail because Svidler neutralized them very comprehensively.
Feb-20-06  SniperOnG7: Is it me but does anyone else get the feeling that Topalov's Berlin Wall backfired on him - look at his h-rook... stuck there unable to get out while on the other hand, Svidler's rooks were in optimum positions.
Feb-20-06
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  Honza Cervenka: After 42...Bd6 43.Ra1 Bc7 white can play also 44.h5. The main idea is to penetrate black position with white King after 44...gxh5 45.Kf5. Also taking the Pawn with Rook 44...Rxh5 doesn't look satisfactory for black because of 45.f7 Rh8 (45...Bd6 46.Rd1 with pin of Bishop loses immediately.) 46.Bh6! Bd6 47.Kg5 and His Royal Majesty is coming in with decisive effect.
Feb-20-06
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  Honza Cervenka: <Can someone please explain Topa's 31 st move ? Why 31.. Be6 ?>

Topalov's problem in that position was not only bad Rook on h5, which was then completely out of play, but also white's threat of nice Bishop manoeuvre Bc7 with next Ba5 and Bb4 with trading of dark-squared Bishop and penetration of Rook on e7. 31...Be6 prevents 32.Bc7 and gives black Rook a hope for escape from its prison in case of taking on e6.

Feb-21-06  alex97: very nice play by svidler,I thought topalov was going to win that game.This was one of the only games I like of Svidlers.Otherwise Topalov is a much better player than Svidler is.
Feb-26-06  vizir: wow impressive play by svidler !!!
Feb-28-06  alexandrovm: this is a pretty ending...
May-03-06  United33: amazing !! f6 pawn didn't move since move 17. and it become Queen at move 57 !! excatly 40 moves later
May-03-06  kampchess: See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saaved...
and much more on the net
May-03-06  EmperorAtahualpa: OK, the Saavedra position, never heard of it, but after studying that Wikipedia article, things are starting to make sense!

Thanks for that, <kampchess>!

May-03-06
Premium Chessgames Member
  Eggman: I see comments here to the effect of "great game, Svidler", but it takes two to produce a game of this beauty. Topalov's attempts to get himself stalemated were quite resourceful and made for quite a breathtaking finish.
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