Aug-03-06 | | Closed: What is up with this endgame?? |
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Aug-03-06 | | Calli: <closed> Re6+ and Rf1 is mate |
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Aug-03-06 | | Closed: <Calli>
I understand that, but, if you notice there is a whole bunch of endgame not just the two finishing moves. My whole point in saying something is that this is a good endgame to study (the whole endgame friend, not just the last two moves:) |
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Aug-03-06 | | paladin at large: I do not like 22.....Nd6, which leads to exit of queens and other simplification, thereby making the white king strong and the buried black king a negative factor in the endgame. If Chigorin had kept his queen on the board, he might have been able to make trouble for white's exposed king, and gain time to loosen up his own kingside. |
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Aug-03-06 | | Calli: <Closed> sorry, I honestly have no idea what your question is. |
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Aug-03-06
 | | IMlday: <closed> I think the endgame can only be understood in terms of Chigorin's bad health. I haven't analysed much or used an engine, but 25..a3 looks horrible.
Winning tries in equal positions backfire often. A couple of years later nobody was under-estimating Rubinstein, especially in the endgame, and Chigorin was dead. |
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Aug-04-06 | | Closed: <Calli>
I have no question to understand, but I did respond to your comment, so let me be fair and explain (again). You had written that <Re6+ and Rf1 is mate> and yes you are correct. However, what lead up to that? I find it important to look at these things (no matter how trivial) in order to better understand why such things occur. So, now a simple question for you:) Would you agree or do I need to restate again?? |
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Aug-05-06 | | Calli: First you said "What is up with this endgame??"
Unless punctuation and sentence structure rules have changed, this is a question. Then you said "I have no question to understand"
I still have no idea what your point is and, with all due respect, prefer not to respond any further on this page. |
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Aug-05-06 | | OneArmedScissor: Closed = owned. |
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Aug-05-06 | | jackmandoo: You guys make no sense. I've associated with many Leobanese call girls but I've never had to ask about where I was allowed to prepare my sandwiches. I mean I would make them in a seperate room, and of course after each layer of meat I put on the bread I would read two verses of scripture into one of those Fischer Price voice recorders. This would enable the lazers in my brain to perform without malfunction. |
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Nov-16-07 | | Karpova: According to IM Donaldson and IM Minev, GM Mikhail Marin <subjects the position after Black's 33rd move to no less than four pages of analysis> in his chapter on Rubinstein in "Learn from the Legends - Chess Champions at their best". |
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Jan-15-09
 | | sleepyirv: <Karpova> I'm going to assume he wasn't impressed by Black's placement of rooks. |
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May-29-10 | | timothee3331: It's a wonderful endgame from Akiva!
Let's start from 25...a3? This is not a good move because it weakens the a-pawn and the invasion threats will be skillfully parried. 26.Bc1!!! an excellent moves keeping the rooks while tying Black ones at the defence of the weak pawns. 27.Rg4!! another multi-purpose move tying the other rook while activating this one and threatening to double ; With the last two moves, White gained a very good advantage now it's time to use the initiative
29.Bf4!! another excellent move, it's so impressive to see the subtle beauty of Akiva's endgames. it wants to delete the knight, a very important defensive piece and the only one with any prospect, and to open wide the 7 th rank 32.Rd7! gaining time is a good way to make the initiative increase !
33.c4! and 34.f4! are preparing the mating net while improving the position, forcing Black to still more open the position. 36.Kc3! a nice prophylactic move 36...h5 nearly forced.
37.h4! the final blow 39.Rg6!!! so wonderful ! |
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May-29-10
 | | Chessical: Is this a smooth Rubinstein win, I do not think so, instead it was a difficult fight. Chigorin obtained a reasonable position from the opening which is a Queen's Gambit Declined, Chigorin Defense (D07) . Chigorin played this particular variation against top level opponents: <12. Bxc3> b5 13. Bd2 Rb6 14. Rdg1 a5 was Pillsbury vs Chigorin, 1899, which he won; and
Leonhardt vs Chigorin, 1905, in which he blundered in a sharp game in which his opponent had given up his queen for minor pieces and the initiative. The <c> pawn was poisonous: <22. Qxc7?> Nh3 23. Qe5 Rxb5 24. Qxf5 Nxg1 25. Rxg1 Rfb8 <23. Qxc7> Rxb5 24.Qxd6 Ne2+ 25. Kd2 Rb2+ Was <25...a3> such a terrible move? <Timothee3331> reasons that "this is not a good move because it weakens the a-pawn and the invasion threats will be skilfully parried". Looking at the position after move 32 I believe that Chigorin would have had an equal game by playing <32... Rb8>:  click for larger viewFor example:
<33. Rxd6+> Ke7 34. Re6+ Kf7 35. c4 Rb2+ 36.Kc3 Rxa2 <36...h5?> loses, Chigorin could have continued to put up a fight with <36... Ra8> <39. Rf1+> also wins, <39...Ke5> 40. Re7+ Kf6 41. Rfe1 f4 42. R1e6+ Kf5 43. Rg7 f3 44.Rg5+ Kf4 45. Kd4 f2 46. Rf6 mate |
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May-30-10
 | | tamar: <Chessical> Rybka confirms that the 29 Bf4 line allows the equalizing counter-attack 32...Rb8. If there was a smooth win, White has to use his mobile pawns, King position, and bishop versus knight edge to maximize his edge before going after pawns. Here is a suggested line on deep analysis. 29 c4 Re8 30 Be3 h6 31 Kd3 Re4 32 Rdb1 Kh7 33 Bd4 Rh4 34 c5 Ne8 35 Rb5 1.65/25 White is gradually gaining more space, and there are threats to queen pawns. |
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Sep-06-10 | | Murphyman: Lovely endgame from a lowly club player's standpoint.
Rubinstein is weaving a net around the black king like a spider's web... its almost invisible but it's there and its deadly |
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Mar-05-20 | | MordimerChess: 12...Qh4 would be probably more natural but 12...Rb8 was pretty sneaky. I think Rubinstein should stay with his king in the middle with 13. Nxd5 Bxd2+ 12. Kxd2 exd5 13. h4⩲ 32...R8a6 was the mistake, Chigorin not so bad rooks became trapped rooks after 33.c4! Then Rubinstein executed black king ruthlessly and rooks couldn't help. Much better moves were:
32...Rb5
32...Rb8
Even 32...Ke5 was very strong.
And of course 36...h5 blundered the game. Black should try last chance and activate one rook 36...Ra8 but situation was already difficult. I analyzed this game here:
https://youtu.be/lgYzwENREI4
Enjoy the video! Thank you! :) |
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May-19-21
 | | plang: 6..Bxf3 would have been more consistent. Black had outplayed White until the error 21..Nf5? 22 Qc4 when the game was balanced. Marin thought that White would have had better practical defensive chances after 34..Rb2+ 35 Kc3..Rxa2 36 Re1..Kg6 37 Rg1+..Kh6 38 Rgxg7..Rf2 going after the f-pawn that is helping to create many of White's tactical chances. 37..Kf6 38 Re1..f4 39 Re6+..Kf5 40 Rg7..f3 41 Rg5+..Kf4 42 Kd3 would have led to mate. A great example of a mating attack in a double rook ending. |
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