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Michael Roiz vs Tomasz Warakomski
Zurich Weihnachtsopen (2005), Zurich SUI, rd 4, Dec-28
King's Indian Attack: Yugoslav Variation (A07)  ·  1-0

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Aug-09-21
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  drollere: <It is not too often that I completely miss a Monday puzzle.>

it's very often that posters succumb to the delusion that the POTD positions are "graded in difficulty" from monday to sunday each week.

the puzzle is the puzzle; you solve it or you don't. the day of the week has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Aug-09-21
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  Dionysius1: So what's the "Easy"..."Insane" annotation about then?

Blimey, <drollere>, if that's your dry humour, remember humour is very hit and miss on digital chats, dry humour most of all :-)

Aug-09-21  Damenlaeuferbauer: The Russian-born, but now Israeli GM Michael Roiz could have forced a mate in 2 moves with the very nice queen sacrifice 37.Qe7+!,Nxe7 38.Bg7#. My compatriot, the 2nd world champion Dr Emanuel Lasker (1868 - 1941), once said: "When you see a good move, wait - look for a better one." BTW, Michael Roiz wrote a very good book about the Nimzo-Indian.
Aug-09-21  mel gibson: It's a mate in 5 so not that easy.
Aug-09-21
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  Willber G: <mel gibson: It's a mate in 5 so not that easy.>

Mate in two.

Aug-09-21  ndg2: Lol,my first thought was " white will win black's queen" (which isn't true because she's protected by the rook), but it's mate, actually.
Aug-09-21  mel gibson: <Aug-09-21
Premium Chessgames Member Willber G: <mel gibson: It's a mate in 5 so not that easy.>

Mate in two.>

not if 37... Ke5

Aug-09-21
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  chrisowen: The French Inhaler wait wait ok :)
Aug-09-21
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  Steve Holloway: I first saw Qe7, Nx, Bg7#
Aug-09-21
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  Willber G: <mel gibson: Willber G: Mate in two.>

not if 37... Ke5>

37.Qe7+ Nxe7 38.Bg7#

Aug-09-21  jamesrocklyn: Looking for someone else noticing RxB, PxR (either one) followed by Qe7 is also mate?
Aug-09-21  TheaN: Why are so many struggling with a mate in two Monday queen sac? Finally we get one and people are still complaining :>. Have we been conditioned so much that we're not used to it anymore?

I saw <37.Qxe7+ Nxe7 38.Bg7#> instantly and I actually think it's aesthetically the better option, let alone 37.Bxe7+ Ke5 being #4 instead of #1.

Aug-09-21
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  Willber G: <jamesrocklyn: Looking for someone else noticing RxB, PxR (either one) followed by Qe7 is also mate?>

I presume you mean RxN.
Black can play KxR instead of PxR.

Aug-09-21  AlicesKnight: Found the Qe7+ version, leaving a nice 2-bishop cross-over.
Aug-09-21  johnnydeep: WAY too tricky for a Monday. At least for me. I spent a good deal of time seeing no winning line, and only after stepping away for a few hours and returning, did the best move dawn on me. But even then, I could only truly confirm it by moving the pieces in the interface since I couldn't see it clearly enough in my mind's eye alone. Oh we, I'm still glad I got it!
Aug-09-21  johnnydeep: Oh, and I missed the queen sac as well, dismissing it early on as going nowhere, just to add insult to injury :-)
Aug-09-21
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  raymondhow: Solved it pretty quickly with Qe7+, but it's a minor jolt to push the button and see a different move, and think for a second that I missed a Monday.
Aug-09-21  saturn2: 37...Nxe7 was helpmate.
Aug-09-21
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  chrisowen: No shaved ar Be7 no?
Aug-09-21
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  Peligroso Patzer: Given that it's a Monday, and since queen sacs always have a special aesthetic appeal (whatever day of the week it may be), obviously, the <correct> solution is 37. Qe7+ Nxe7 38. Bg7# ... so no credit for Roiz on this puzzle.
Aug-09-21  mel gibson: <Aug-09-21
Premium Chessgames Member Willber G: <mel gibson: Willber G: Mate in two.>

not if 37... Ke5

37.Qe7+ Nxe7 38.Bg7#>

Yes but in this game White played
37 Be7+

that means a mate in 5.

Aug-09-21
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  Willber G: <mel gibson: <Aug-09-21 Premium Chessgames Member Willber G: <mel gibson: Willber G: Mate in two.>

not if 37... Ke5

37.Qe7+ Nxe7 38.Bg7#>

Yes but in this game White played
37 Be7+

that means a mate in 5.>

The game line isn't always the best move, as in this case. The puzzle starting position is given before move 37 and mate in two from there starting with Qe7+ is the best solution. It's called P(uzzle)OTD, not C(ontinuation)OTD. ;-)

Aug-09-21  mel gibson: <Aug-09-21
Premium Chessgames Member Willber G: <mel gibson: <Aug-09-21 Premium Chessgames Member Willber G: <mel gibson: Willber G: Mate in two.>

not if 37... Ke5

37.Qe7+ Nxe7 38.Bg7#>

Yes but in this game White played
37 Be7+

that means a mate in 5.>

The game line isn't always the best move, as in this case. The puzzle starting position is given before move 37 and mate in two from there starting with Qe7+ is the best solution. It's called P(uzzle)OTD, not C(ontinuation)OTD. ;-)>

Agreed -
and the best move is a mate in 2.

Aug-09-21
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  Willber G: Correct.
Aug-10-21
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  steinitzfan: Regarding the 2-move mate - there's a lot packed in those two moves. When Black takes the queen he opens the g-file and obstructs a critical retreat square. The actual mating move is pretty complicated as well.
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