| Mar-16-07 | | Autoreparaturwerkbau: Wow, that's flying chess! |
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| Mar-16-10 | | ShadowRider: What's the finish after 23....Kd7 ?
I suppose White now brings out the knight with 24. Nc5+ ? |
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Mar-16-10
 | | NM JRousselle: The simple 24 Bf8 leaves White a piece ahead. |
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| Mar-16-10 | | howlwolf: NmRousslle are you Jim from Louisiana? |
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| Sep-11-11 | | Cemoblanca: 23...♔d7 24.♗xf8 24...and so on and on on! ;0) |
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| Oct-20-21 | | Brenin: 22 Rxe7+ Kxe7 (forced) 23 Bb4+ and 24 Bxf8 leaves Black a N down with an exposed K. |
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| Oct-20-21 | | Brenin: Unfortunately for Black, after 33 Rxe7+ Kxe7 34 Bb4+ and 35 Bxf8, his K is on d7 or e6, preventing 35 ... Bxh3 with the threat of mate on g2. Of course, Black could bring proceedings to a quick conclusion with 34 ... Ke8 35 Qxf8+ Kd7 36 Qe7 mate. |
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| Oct-20-21 | | drollere: i had 22. Ba5 Be6, 23. Bxd8 Qxd8, 24. Nc5 Ng6, 25. Nxe6 |
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Oct-20-21
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Considered both the game move and 22.Bc5, threatening mate in 1 with 23.Rxe7X. 22...Rd7 allows 23.Rxc8+ (look at those pins!). However, 22.Bc5,Be6 looks to defend for the time being; White will still win with the extra Exchange. |
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| Oct-20-21 | | mel gibson: I saw that in 3 seconds.
Stockfish 14 has a similar solution:
22. Bb4
(22. Bb4 (♗d2-b4 ♗c8-e6 ♖c1-c7 ♖d8-d7
♖c7xd7 ♕d5xd7 ♘b3-c5 ♕d7-b5 ♕h8-d4 ♘e7-f5 ♘c5xe6 ♘f5xd4 ♘e6xd4+ ♔e8-d7
♘d4xb5 ♗f8xb4 ♖e1-d1+ ♔d7-e7 ♘b5-c7 ♗b4-d6 ♖d1-e1+ ♔e7-d7 ♘c7-d5 f7-f5
♘d5-f6+ ♔d7-c8 ♔g1-g2 a6-a5 ♔g2-f3 a5-a4 g3-g4 f5xg4+ ♔f3xg4 b7-b6 ♔g4-f5
♔c8-b7 ♘f6-e4 ♗d6-b4 ♖e1-c1 ♗b4-e7 ♖c1-d1 ♔b7-c6 ♔f5-e6 ♗e7-b4 ♖d1-d4
♗b4-c5) +8.84/32 174)
score for White +8.84 depth 32. |
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| Oct-20-21 | | stacase: 23.Bb4+ works, 23.Re1+ doesn't, and accepting your opponent's resignation is always advisable. |
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| Oct-20-21 | | Brenin: <mel gibson>'s Stockfish solution 22 Bb4 is objectively better than the game move 22 Rxe7+, since White comes out (after 32 Nc7) a R ahead rather than a minor piece ahead. However, the tactical complications required to get there, where Black's K is better protected, are complex and hard to see in advance (for me, anyway), so unless you are a machine or a GM I reckon that the more direct 22 Rxe7+ is the move to play, especially if it induces your opponent to resign on move 23. |
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| Oct-20-21 | | Lambda: 22 Bb4 is not objectively better. Since both lines are winning with best play, the only meaningful distinction which can be made is which it's easier to win with. |
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Oct-20-21
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Oct-20-21
| | chrisowen: Re7 bites |
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Oct-20-21
| | chrisowen: Grace no rofl har it is toe vim lime doubloon in jah v i hit vim swash no vis buckling it do pegs vis an v darn o wait sh o none shake rattle and roll pink would no? |
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| Oct-20-21 | | awfulhangover: Went for 22.Bb4 and was it seems to work, too. However, did not see black´s best defence. |
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| Oct-20-21 | | TheaN: <22.Rxe7+ Kxe7 23.Bb4+ +-> is straightforward, but I got a bit sloppy after this, thinking we'd follow up with Nc5+ almost immediately. Of course, the starting maneuver unpins Bf8 so White simply plays Bxf8 first. Actually easier than the complications after Nc5+ (if Black didn't have Bxc5 -+). |
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| Oct-20-21 | | agb2002: White has a rook for a bishop.
The first ideas that come to mind are Rxe7+ and Bb4. In the case of 22.Bb4 Be6 and Black still resists. In the case of 22.Rxe7+ Kxe7 23.Bb4+:
A) 23... Kd7 24.Nc5+
A.1) 24... Kc7 25.Ne6+
A.1.a) 25... Kd7 26.Nxf8+ wins decisive material. A.1.b) 25... Kb6 26.Bc5+ Kc6 (26... Ka5 27.Qc3+ wins; 26... Kb5 27.Nc7+ wins) 27.Nxd8+ is a massacre. A.1.c) 25... Kb8 26.Nxd8 Bxb4 (26... Qxd8 27.Qxf8 wins a rook) 27.Nxf7 wins decisive material (27... Qxf7 28.Rxf8+ Ka7 29.Qd4+). A.2) 24... Kc6 25.Ne6+ as above.
A.3) 24... Kd6 25.Qf6+ Kc7 26.Nxa6+ Kd7 27.Rc7+ Ke8 28.Re7+ Bxe7 29.Qxe7#. A.4) 24... Ke8 25.Re1+ Be6 26.Nxe6 fxe6 27.Qxf8+ wins a piece at least. B) 23... Ke6 24.Bxf8 wins a piece at least.
C) 23... Rd6 24.Rxc8 is winning. |
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| Oct-20-21 | | agb2002: 24.Nc5+ loses miserably to 24... Bxc5.
Better luck tomorrow. |
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| Oct-20-21 | | Brenin: <Lambda>: Perhaps the meaning of my posting would have been clearer if I had replaced "since" in my first sentence with "in the sense that", indicating that I was using the crude points count of pieces to compare two continuations (the game line and <mel gibson>'s Stockfish line), and simply pointing out that OTB (for most of us) a two-move combination leading a minor piece advantage would be preferable to a ten-move one leading to a rook advantage. In fact, the local Stockfish disagrees with my points count, awarding +9.27 and +7.76 to 22 Re7+ and 22 Bb4. |
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Oct-20-21
| | NM JRousselle: My 1st thought was 22 Rc8.
The idea is 22 Rc8 Rc8 23 Bb4 Kd7 24 Be7 Be7 25 Re7+ Ke7 26 Qc8. |
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| Oct-20-21 | | Brenin: <NM JRouselle>: 22 Rc8 is another good solution, in addition to Rxe7+ and Bb4. In fact, there are so many winning moves, such as Rc5, Re5, and even Kh2, that I suggest an alternative puzzle: White to move, allowing Black to deliver mate in three. |
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| Oct-21-21 | | awfulhangover: <agb2002:
In the case of 22.Bb4 Be6 and Black still resists.>
No, he does not. 23. Rc7 is +8 |
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Kibitzing
sac: 12.Nd5