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Savielly Tartakower vs Aristide Gromer
"Fly by Knight" (game of the day May-01-2006)
Paris (1933), Paris FRA, rd 6, Oct-24
English Opening: Symmetrical. Symmetrical Variation (A36)  ·  1-0



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May-01-06  olydream3: This is a game to distinguish a bad bishop and a good knight
May-01-06  AniamL: Fly by knight.... what a batty pun!
May-01-06  United33: LOL !! all white's pawn is in light square, so black's bishop can't reach them. very funny
May-01-06  SJP: Endgame masterclass from Tartakower.
May-01-06  Bare Beginner: What a beautifully symmetrical arrangement for the opening ... The tension mounts for quite a while.
May-01-06  EmperorAtahualpa: Interesting game!

Doesn't 54...Bxe5 draw?

54...Bxb5 55.Kxe5 Ke7 56.Kd5 Kd7, then what?

May-01-06  Manic: The black king can't stay on e7 as in your line...
White's king gets opposition and eventually gets black's pawns.
May-01-06  Atking: Right Tartakower was a fantastic player. But here Black plaid well until rook exchange. I felt also the ending should be draw. But the point is 31. ...Nf4+ looks better than the automatic Nd4+ (I tried also 31. ...QxBe3+ but found nothing after 31.QxBe3 Bh6 32.Rg1+ Kf7 33.Ng4 BxQe3+ 34.KxBe3) 32.BxNf4 exBf4 33.BxBd7 Qe3+ 34.Kd1 R6f7 with BxRa1. This could be debate. May someone will test the line with a computer.
May-01-06  pwrstick: Man these end game scenarios are really hard for me to calculate!
May-01-06  themadhair: <EA><Doesn't 54...Bxe5 draw?>I don't think so. I think white can use the opposition to win the b6 pawn.

Eg. 54...Bxe5 55.Kxe5 Kd7 (all other moves lose the pawn on almost on the spot) 56.Kd5 Kc7 (again all other moves lose)57.Ke6 Kb7 (other moves are similar) 58.Kd7 Kb8 (other moves similar) 59.Kc6 Ka7 60.Kc7 and the b pawn drops. The theme for white is use the opposition to get the c6 square and what buggers black is that he can't use the c6 or a6 squares.

May-01-06  goldthread: I wonder if on move 31 black can play Qxe3+ followed by Bh6 getting rid of the bad bishop.
May-01-06  EmperorAtahualpa: <themadhair> Yes, I see how it works now. Thanks!
May-01-06  ChessConquer: Go RUSH!!!
May-01-06  itz2000: 54.. Bxe5 draws indeed!

54.. Bxe5
55. Kxe5, Kd7
56. ?, Kc7

now the c6 pawn is defended and white has no way to attack it. therefore, a draw!

May-01-06  themadhair: <itz2000> Read my above post to see how white wins. The problem black has is that white can use the opposition to force his black's king to abandon the c-pawn.
May-01-06  ReikiMaster: <themadhair> You are right. 54...Bxe5 55.Kxe5 Kd7 56.Kd5 is a basic textbook position where black loses because he must move his King.
May-01-06  jperr75108: 31... Qxe3 I think white can play Kxe3 and escape to the kingside.
May-01-06  lopium: Maybe Nh1.
May-01-06  slapwa: I agree with Atking that 31. ..., Nf4 would have been better, but think that if 32. Bxf4, Black should continue 32. ..., Qxf4+ and then capture on f5, simply picking the pawn up.
May-01-06  suenteus po 147: Another excellent endgame by Tartakower. With games like this it's easy to see why he and Capablanca were friends (in terms of similarities in specific strengths).
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  kevin86: A good knight will beat a bad bishop anyday-go Cavalier!
May-01-06  Atking: Slapwa. You are right. I was thinking without board and for me white queen was in d2 and the white king in e2 !? So my Nf4+ isn't a reality still clearly a better move and better for Black. Gromer plaid better than Tartakower until this point.
May-01-06  goldthread: 31... Qxe3 32. Kxe3 Bh6+ 33. Kf3 Nd4+ It does not seem that black can escape to the king side as <jperr71508> suggests.
May-01-06  LPeristy: This is my sort of game. Slow and crushing. The fact that I also play the english doesn't factor into it at all. *sarcasm*
May-01-06  CapablancaFan: <EmperorAtahualpa: Interesting game!

Doesn't 54...Bxe5 draw?

54...Bxb5 55.Kxe5 Ke7 56.Kd5 Kd7, then what?> A flaw in your line. 54...Bxb5 55.Kxe5 Ke7? (The king is already on e7!) So the king has to move. The reason Gromer didn't exchange here was this if 54...Bxb5? 55.Kxe5 Kd7 56.Kd5 Kc7 57.Ke6!Kb7 (or Kd8)58.Kd6 and black cannot prevent the b6 pawn from falling.

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