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May-25-06
 | | Mateo: Accurate and nice play from Kramnik. But Naiditsch weak play in the opening did not set him a difficult problem. So it is not easy to know what could be Kramnik's strength nowadays, just looking at this game. Is he a 2700 IGM or something more? 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. g3 d5 4. d4 cxd4 5. Bg2 e6 6. O-O dxc4 7. Nxd4 Nd5 <looks new.> 8. Qa4+ Nd7 9. Qxc4 N7b6 10. Qb3 Bd7 11. Nc3 Bc5 <11...Nc3 12.Qc3 Rc8 could be an improvement.> 12. Nxd5 Nxd5 <safer 12...ed.> 13. Nf5! O-O 14. Nxg7! Nf6 <14...Kg7 15.Bd5 ed 16.Qc3 > 15. Bh6 Qe7 <15...Ng4 16.Nh5! Nh6 17.Qc3 > 16. Qf3 <directed against Ng4> Bc6 17. Qf4 Kh8 <17...Bg2 18.Nf5! > 18. Bxc6 bxc6 19. Rac1 Bd6 20. Qh4 Ng8 21. Qxe7 Bxe7 <better 21...Ne7, but the game is lost anyway.> 22. Nxe6 Nxh6 23. Nxf8 Bxf8 24. Rxc6 <this is an easy win.> Rd8 25. Rfc1 Kg7 26. R1c2 Nf5 27. e3 a5 28. Ra6 Rd5 29. e4 Rd1+ 30. Kg2 Nd4 31. Rc7 Nb5 32. Rb7 Nd6 33. Rd7 1-0 |
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May-25-06 | | Stevens: <JOHNNY YORK: How is this a draw> it isn't, white won! |
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May-25-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Stunning game! It looks like Kramnik is ready for World Championship match against Topalov! By the way, I've noticed that Kramnik actually opens with 1.Nf3 in most of his games. Interesting! See here: Repertoire Explorer: Vladimir Kramnik (white) |
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May-25-06 | | dehanne: I guess this happens when Naiditsch doesn't have Pocket Fritz up and running... |
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May-25-06
 | | tamar: Kramnik's layoff has the effect of making him a blank page to many opponents. Naiditsch played weakly, but more in accordance with how players in the past played against elite opponents. Nowadays, 2600 players have chances based on catching their superior opponents based on computer preparations for their favorite openings. So Kramnik's inactivity makes him harder to prepare for. |
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May-25-06 | | wharfrat: <Johnny York> I was analyzing 32...Rb1; 33.Rdd6, Bd6; 34.Rd6, Rb2 when Black wins the a-pawn and has drawing chances when I realized that 33.e5 and 34.e6 are immediately decisive. So, best seems to be 32...Rd2, but then 33.e5, Ne4; 34.Rd2 and 35.Ra5 is an easy win for White. Hopefully this means that Kramnik's experiment with 1.e4 is now over. |
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May-25-06
 | | tamar: <chancho> I've been thinking about that lately, not just in regard to Kramnik, but Kasparov, who seems quite avid a kibitzer for someone supposed to be retired... The hidden danger for someone like Topalov is that to play a lot does may be in the long run hard to sustain, because your main competitors and the whole world can focus on your flaws with their machines. The work level increases tremendously because now after MTEL Topalov must scour his own games for errors as much as prepare for Kramnik. So the match may not be as one-sided as the ratings might indicate. |
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May-25-06
 | | chancho: Two great posts <tamar>. Thanks for sharing your insights. |
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May-25-06
 | | Gypsy: <CRWynn: I'm not sure it's opening prep, Gypsy - 7...Nd5? was such a bad novelty, it's hard to imagine Kramnik preparing for it. ...> Opening prep comes in different forms. Within a couple of moves Naidich was like Bambi on ice. At the same time -- to stretch the cultural reference even more -- Kramnik ran circles around him like like Stumper. In a way, reminiscent of Kamsky vs Topalov, 2006 -- a cat and a mouse game. |
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Nov-21-06 | | thegoodanarchist: A beautiful game by a true champion, VK. |
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Dec-31-06 | | Dr.Lecter: why not Kxg7? |
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Dec-31-06
 | | technical draw: For the New year I wish that all that ask a question about a move would put in the move number so we can all know where to look. Tks and happy New year to all. |
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Apr-22-08 | | Whitehat1963: Take an interesting look at this one here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPiG... |
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Apr-30-08 | | whiteshark: Where went black wrong ? <put in the move number>! |
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Jun-15-10 | | sethoflagos: <whiteshark> A late answer to your question, but black's 6th move has transposed to a variant of the sharp 5. ... c5 line of the Open Catalan 5. Nf3 (E04) that favours white and therefore his first error was earlier. The best you can say of 4. ... cxd4 is that it has a poor history. e6 is usually played here, but dxc4 may be even better. His next two moves are about as good as he can make under the circumstances, but I think Kramlik must have seen the Catalan transposition and his 6. 0-0 is inspired (lesser mortals go straight for Nxd4). Black has won after 7. Nxd4, but not with 7. ... Nd5. He needs to find Qb6. He should also be grateful Kramnik didn't find 7. Qxd4 which is very strong. |
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Sep-22-10 | | Hesam7: <Dr.Lecter: why not Kxg7?> After 14. ... Kxg7 15. Bxd5 exd5 16. Qc3+:
 click for larger viewWhite regains the piece, moreover the dark squares around the king are weakened so the bishop on c1 will become a menace. |
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Jul-31-22 | | jrredfield: I chose 14. Bxd5, planning after 14...exd5 to follow up with 15. Nxg7. But the engine gives a slight nod to the text move. I was doing so well this week but missed these last two. |
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Jul-31-22 | | newzild: Very easy for a Sunday - the main question is move order.
As noted by <<jjredfield>>, 14. Bxd5 looks almost as strong, but after 14...ef it's a bit awkward for White to capture on b7, eg: 15. Bxb7 Rb8 16. Qf3, White's QB is awkardly placed and he will have some difficulty developing his Bc1. 16. Qxb7 Rb8, and again it's tricky for White to develop his K-side. |
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Jul-31-22 | | mel gibson: I didn't know.
Stockfish 15 says:
14. Nxg7
(14. Nxg7 (♘f5xg7 ♕d8-b6 ♗c1-h6 ♕b6xb3 a2xb3 ♖f8-d8 ♘g7-h5 ♗d7-b5
♖f1-c1 ♗c5-b6 ♗g2-f3 ♗b6-d4 ♖c1-c2 ♘d5-b4 ♖c2-d2 ♘b4-c6 ♗f3xc6 ♗b5xc6
♖a1-d1 ♗d4-b6 ♘h5-f6+ ♔g8-h8 ♘f6-d7 ♗b6-a5 ♖d2-d4 ♗a5-b6 ♖d4-g4 ♖d8-g8
♖g4-f4 ♖g8-g6 ♘d7xb6 a7xb6 ♖f4-h4 e6-e5 f2-f3 ♖g6-e6 ♔g1-f2 ♖a8-e8 ♗h6-e3
♔h8-g8 g3-g4 f7-f6 h2-h3 ♗c6-b5 ♖h4-h6 ♔g8-g7 h3-h4 ♖e8-e7 g4-g5 f6xg5
♖h6xe6 ♖e7xe6 h4xg5 ♗b5-c6 b3-b4 ♗c6-b5 ♖d1-d2 ♗b5-c6 ♖d2-d8 ♔g7-f7 ♗e3-c1
♗c6-b5 e2-e4 ♖e6-c6 ♗c1-d2 ♖c6-c2 ♔f2-g3) +2.26/53 683) score for White +2.26 depth 53. |
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Jul-31-22
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Nice, normal 5/7 week. At my age (1,000,000 years old) quite reassuring to know a few brain cells remain. |
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Jul-31-22
 | | agb2002: The bishop on c5 is defenseless. This suggests 14.Nxg7: A) 14... Kxg7 15.Bxd5 exd5 16.Qc3+ wins a pawn and leaves Black with a number of weaknesses. B) 14... Bxf2+ 15.Rxf2 Kxg7 16.Qxb7 as above but White keeps the bishop pair and has some attacking chances. C) 14... Nb6 15.Bxb7 wins a second pawn (15... Rb8 16.Bg2 Kxg7 17.Qc3+). D) 14... Nf6 15.Bh6 looks good for White. For example, 15... Kh8 (threatening Rg8) 16.Bxb7 (16.Qc3 Rc8) 16... Rb8 17.Qc3 Rg8 18.Nh5 Rg6 19.Be3 Bxe3 (19... Rxb7 20.Bxc5 keeps the dark square bishop for the attack) 20.fxe3 Rxb7 21.Rxf6 must be winning. |
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Jul-31-22 | | AIC: At one point I was looking to Nxg7, but I thought this is too insane even for a Sunday; couldn't see any benefit of such sacrifice. Instead, I considered trading the g2 bishop for that black knight placed in the center, thinking that white will get a better position. Well, as the things turned out, I was wrong. This makes five out of seven for me this week, which is quite ok for the level where I am. Waiting for the next one. See you! |
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Jul-31-22 | | Open Defence: I calculated 14. Nxg7 Kxg7 15. Bxd5 exd5 (maybe Qb6!?) 16. Qc3+ Qf6 17. Qxc5 But what about 14.Nxg7 Qb6 .... this seems stubborn I dont see anything better than retreating the knight with 15.Nh5 OR 15.Qxb6 axb6 16. Nh5
Of course White should win but if this puzzle has an immediate forced win then I missed it... |
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Jul-31-22
 | | Breunor: Wow an easy Sunday puzzle! I'll write this day on my calendar! |
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Jul-31-22 | | stst: stst: several lines but seems coming back to either 14.Nh6+ or BxN Try
14.BxN PxB
15.Nh6+ PxN
16.BxP Re8
17.QxPd5 Bf8
18.Bg5 Be7
Then White has to get either R out to add more fire-power...OR,
may be also good to try 14.NxPg7 and get
the K out
14.NxP KxN
15.BxN PxB
16.Qc3+ Pd4
17.QxB Qf6
18.Bg5 Qe6 / Qf6
19.QxP+ Kg8
20.f4 .... |
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