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Crafty (Computer) vs Shredder (Computer)
WCCC 2006 (2006), Turin, rd 2, May-26
Sicilian Defense: Alapin Variation. Barmen Defense Modern Line (B22)  ·  0-1

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May-27-06  CapablancaFan: Nerves of steel (no pun intended). Shredder sacrafices it's queen against the powerful program Crafty and comes out victorious!
May-27-06  esticles: <Capablanca> What queen sacrifice? Shredder just favorably traded it for two rooks.
May-27-06  Knight13: Shredder is stronger, obviously. But beating Crafty this bad is not to be expected [by me at least]. Good game.
May-28-06  EmperorAtahualpa: Why does Crafty open with an Alapin anyway? Seems silly to me.
May-29-06  Tobias: <EmperorAtahualpa: Why does Crafty open with an Alapin anyway? Seems silly to me.> What's so silly about opening with Alapin?
May-29-06
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  WannaBe: The ChessGames.com Statistics Page page has the Sicilian, Alapin (B22) as the most played opening of all the games, but black has 32.7! winning percentage, white has 30.5 and draw is 36.8.

The only other opening where black has such a high percentage of winning (that I can think of) is Sicilian, Najdorf, Zagreb (Fianchetto) Variation (B91)

I wonder if anyone can come up with an opening that (percentage wise) favors black?!

May-29-06
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  WannaBe: Rooks are usually worth 5, queens are usually 9, Shredder traded 9 pts for 10.

Then turns around and traded the R for B + N (6 pts total), I can't wait to get my Shredder 10!!

May-29-06
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  offramp: Sacrifices in computer games are rarer than cock's eggs.
May-29-06  cuendillar: <I wonder if anyone can come up with an opening that (percentage wise) favors black?!>

Bird's Opening (A02) is one.

May-30-06
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  offramp: <WannaBe: The ChessGames.com Statistics Page page has the Sicilian, Alapin (B22) as the most played opening of all the games...>

That has always puzzled me; is it some sort of a bug? When looking up games randomly on this site I come across Sicilian Alapins about 3 times a year.

May-30-06  borisbadenoff: If we consider 1-2 moves already as a opening with significant statistic meaning then we could also consider A00 the Meadow Hay Opening (1. a4) with 57,1% for black but only with 7 games in the opening. For some useful statistics I think you must look at some more specific variation.

Otherwise what about B26 with 40,9% for black.

But I must warn you. The statistics in the opening explorer just display the statistics about the games in the chessgames database. Which means they can vary from inaccurate to wrong.

May-30-06  borisbadenoff: <offramp: <WannaBe: The ChessGames.com Statistics Page page has the Sicilian, Alapin (B22) as the most played opening of all the games...>

That has always puzzled me; is it some sort of a bug? When looking up games randomly on this site I come across Sicilian Alapins about 3 times a year.>

That isn't so puzzling at all if you just think a moment about it. This is just the case because after 1. e4 c5 2. c3 all variations run under the same ECO Code aka same opening

Most played is of course the Sicilian line with 2. Nf3 with but there are much more ECO codes classifying the variations there

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