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Teimour Radjabov vs Magnus Carlsen
Biel Int'l Festival (2006), Biel SUI, rd 1, Jul-26
Benko Gambit: Accepted. Fully Accepted Variation (A58)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Jul-26-06  spirit: computers usually play to king vs king,they dont agree to draw until they're absolutely clueless...even then comps like hydra and shredder will still crunch away with super BRUTE force...just dancing their kings in an eternal super beautiful walz...
Jul-26-06  drnooo: Be very interesting if these two guys would agree to say a ten, twenty blitz match: Carlsen does play at Playchess in the rapids from time to time: would be nothing for them to try some quickies there, say twenty just for amusement. They would not even have to trot out their best ideas, just swap some blows a la Tal in weird positions. Even Fischer random.
Jul-26-06  EeEk: Magnus should be 2694 now, with these 3 games from Biel included.
Jul-26-06  ianD: Carlsen well done you pressed hard for the win.

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Jul-26-06  samikd: even though material is even in the final position, Black's King is closer to the centre...so he has an advantage
Jul-26-06  peacock: i agree
Jul-26-06  madlydeeply: in my HUMBLE opinion, I think that white had a winning endgame after black's 27th move, and if Radjabov couldn't bring home the point, then he has no business considering himself World Champion caliber. THe best player in the world wouldn't have blown that position. I can't wait to see him get schooled, by Kramnik or Topalov or whomever when his time comes.

Jul-26-06  madlydeeply: Lets make a list of the WOrld Champions and see who could bring home a pawn up endgame with identical minor pieces...

Fischer...yes.
Karpov...yes.
Kramnik...yes.
Kasparov...yes.
Smyslov...yup.
Botvinnik...mmhmmm.

etc.

Jul-26-06  KingG: Shame Kasparov couldn't use his world championship level endgame skills to beat the rubbish endgame player in this game : Radjabov vs Kasparov, 2004
Jul-26-06  Hesam7: 39. Na3 looks better than 39. b4. My engine gives the following line:

39. Na3 Ke5 40. Nb5 Nf6 41. Naxc3 Nh5 42. Ne4 Bd5 43. Na3 Bxe4 44. Nc4 Ke6 45. fxe4 Nxg3 46. Kd2 Be5 47. a4 Bf4 48. Kc3 Nh1 49. a5 Nf2 50. a6 Bb8 51. Ne3 Nxh3 52. Bc4 Kd7 53. Bb5 Ke6 (eval : +1.37)

Depth: 24
23725M nodes
925K nodes/sec

Jul-27-06  madlydeeply: i must concede that is an excellent retort KingG.
Jul-27-06  percyblakeney: I think it was a good game by both players, Radjabov had a small advantage but only seconds left when he went for 39. b4 instead of Na3. I'm not even sure that Na3 actually would have won even if it of course would have been better.

In general I think people demand too much of players like Carlsen and Radjabov. They should be allowed to draw a game now and then...

Jul-27-06  Xaurus: <In general I think people demand too much of players like Carlsen and Radjabov. They should be allowed to draw a game now and then...>I don't see any complaints, when the board has two pieces left when the draw is confirmed, I have no problems accepting it. When people draw after 18 moves I have a harder time accepting it...
Jul-27-06  percyblakeney: <I don't see any complaints>

I don't think there was much to complain about in this game :-) But it's tough for Carlsen to be considered favourite with black in a game like this, and hard on Radjabov to see the outcome as proof that he isn't World Champion material...

Jul-27-06  Ulhumbrus: Carlsen had to struggle to draw in the end ,which suggests the question: could he have followed any alternative more promising? The reason why the attack on the centre did not yield a promising king side attack was partly that Radjabov induced Carlsen to open a central file to exchange Rooks with. On 16...Rae8 17 Bf4 attacks d6 twice. If Blacks lacks any reply which preserves his centre with its mobility, and if Carlsen lacked time to turn his centre into an weapon from being at first a target,this suggests that the central attack ...e6 is not promising enough, which suggests in turn 11...Qc7 and ...Rfb8 instead of 11...Qa5, and that it was Radjabov's brilliant timing that defused Carlsen's central attacking plan. However on 11 Ng5 Rae8 12 Bf4 Black has 12...Nh5! attacking the Bf4 as well as discovering an attack upon the N on c3. The move 15 dxe6 ?! attracts suspicion because it moves the d5 pawn a third time to exchange itself for a f7 pawn moved only once in recapturing on e6, making a loss of two tempi. Carlsen may have missed a chance to gain the advantage by 16..Rae8 17 Bf4 Nh5!
Jul-27-06  psmith: <madlydeeply> etc:

Looking at this with the two programs I have (both free ones -- SlowBlitz and Fritz 5.32) both choose 28. a4 over 28. Bc3 and evaluate the position as much better for White. Playing through some lines it seems White can usually create two passed pawns, one on each side, and win even if it comes down to opposite colored bishops.

Jul-27-06  madlydeeply: My harsh judgement for Radjabov has to do with his desire to be WC...one looks at Karpov, Fischer games, and they consistently bring home the point...the WC is supposed to have vast knowledge combined with an inexhaustible will... I am sure Fischer and Karpov have had bad days. The bad days are never included in game collections...as far as "will to win", at the chessboard, Carlsen seemed to show more of this than Radjabov, for this game, in my opinion. It seemed that after move 27, white a pawn up was a winning advantage with material balanced, Carlsen goaded Radjabov into handing him the two bishops, suddenly Carlsen has tactical opportunities, it did not seem very smart to me. And if it doesn't seem smart to me...well let's just say I'm not SuperGM material...so I was disappointed.
Jul-27-06
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  plang: So Radjabov is not quite playing at the level of Fischer or Karpov? That doesn't seem like anything to be ashamed of.
Jul-27-06  ahmadov: I guess Radja was too complacent since he was one pawn up in a game with someone who is younger than him. I believe there was a point when he had all chances to win.
Jul-27-06  madlydeeply: Radja is going to be playing a WC championship match soon, he should be firing on all cylinders, his game should be tight. I wouldn't compare him to Fischer and Karpov if he didn't have a WC match coming up.
Jul-27-06  ahmadov: <madlydeeply> Are you going to launch a Radja bashing campaign here?
Jul-27-06  madlydeeply: no, i'm over it. I've been looking at Radja's great games to become more acquainted with him. World Champion is a sanctified honor though I only want the greatest players to achieve it.
Jul-27-06  outplayer: I couldn't see the game till the end. At move 24.Re1 I thought it would a White's win or a draw. Nice that ended in a draw. I wouldn't like Carlsen to lose.
Jul-28-06  TheSlid: <TheBB> and <simsan> Belated thanks!
Jul-29-06  A.Alekhine: A hard fought game
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