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Vladimir Kramnik vs Veselin Topalov
"Kramming for the Exam" (game of the day Apr-22-2010)
Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006), Elista RUS, rd 8, Oct-05
Semi-Slav Defense: Meran Variation (D47)  ·  0-1



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Oct-10-06  AdrianP: For anyone whose interested in R v two minor pieces imbalance, there is a good chapter in Mikhail Marin's Learn from the Legends re Tal's games. He also mentions that he touched on this subject in his book on defence (query: 'secrets of defending' or similar) (which I do not have).
Oct-11-06  ghaiethe: syracrophy:

17.Rc1 Bxc6 18.Nxc6 Qxa4

if 19.Nxe7 Kxe7 20.b3!! Qa6?! 21.Rc7!

Qe2?! 22.Rxa7! h6 zugzwang!!

23.Rd1!! h5 24.h3! Qb5 26.Qd6

and if 26...Nd5

27.Rxd5 and Kramnik win!!

Oct-11-06  ghaiethe: There's an other variation:

19.e4! (against (19+)...Nd5)

Here we have :

1/ Black Q in a complicated situation after b3!

2/ white have two solutions: taking the BRook or the BBishop

3/ d5 is taboo for the Knight

4/ (19+)...0-0 is impossible because of: (20+).Nxe7+

time space and material are for white

5/ 19...a5?! reduce WBishop space yes but also the BQueen one!

6/ And Black have to play(zugzwang)!!!

Sorry Syracrophy

Nov-07-06  AAAAron: Kramnik should have tried to call a draw after nine moves. That's his special power. I heard after 2. C6 Kramnik tried to draw, but Topalov had a vodoo doll of Kramnik made by an authentic witch doctor before the match, so he was able to ward off Kramniks amazing drawing powers and win the match. Pure evil, that Kramnik is! Yeah, Topalov!
Nov-21-06  alicefujimori: I don't know if anyone had mentioned it before in this page, but apparently Topalov's novelty, 15...Qa5, was actually in Fritz 9's opening book! So all Topalov needed to do was use Fritz 9 to be able to "come up" with this move. But it was suprising that Kramnik didn't know about this move, considering that he also used Fritz to prepare for the match and he was the one that entered into the Be2 variation of the Meran, which one could assumes that he must've been thoroughly prepared for this variation.
Jan-06-07  seeminor: may be im just getting old, but Kramnik v Topalov or Kramnik v Leko just doesnt have the ring of a Kasparov v Karpov or Tal v Botvinnik. It doesnt help that the matches themselves have a small amount of games compared to what im used to. Who knows, in 20 years maybe these 2 will be remembered as great players who played great matches?
Aug-03-07  alexandrovm: In my opinion, this is one of the best Topalov game of this match, beautiful game played by this GM
Nov-22-07  Petrosianic: <alexandrovm>: <In my opinion, this is one of the best Topalov game of this match, beautiful game played by this GM>

In my opinion, Game 5 was the one where Topalov displayed the most skill. Not chess skill, perhaps, but skill, nonetheless. This game is probably his 3rd best of the match, after games 5 and 9.

Nov-22-07  Petrosianic: <seeminor>: <may be im just getting old, but Kramnik v Topalov or Kramnik v Leko just doesnt have the ring of a Kasparov v Karpov or Tal v Botvinnik.>

I'm curious as to how much younger you could have been when Kramnik-Topalov DID have the ring of Tal-Botvinnik. Before San Luis, I never thought much about Kramnik-Topalov at all, one way or the other.

Nov-22-07  Jim Bartle: Great comment, Petrosianic, very sharp. Glad I wasn't drinking coffee while I read it.
Nov-22-07  KamikazeAttack: Amazing how things change and peeps moves on.

Prior to and during this match, Topalomania was on the rise. Evertything revolved round him, so he thought.

Now it's like TopaWHO? Ohhhhh yesss Topalov. How many can even remember his first name? lol.

Now it is all about Anand and Kramnik - the 2 biggest stars in chess today.

Nov-22-07  Jim Bartle: Well, his first name does start with a V, apparently a prerequisite for fighting for the title these days.
Nov-22-07  TIMER: Yes that is interesting- the top 4 rated players in the latest FIDE list are Vishy, Vasily, Vladmir and Veselin!
Nov-22-07  Softpaw: <KamikazeAttack: Now it's like TopaWHO? Ohhhhh yesss Topalov. How many can even remember his first name? >

Don't worry, Topalov will be in the headlines again very soon. He has a guaranteed "Challengers Match" with the winner of the World Cup, to be played in a neutral venue. Topalov will be favored to win THERE and go on to challenge the Anand/Kramnik winner. Topalov will be back!!!!!!!!

Nov-22-07  Jim Bartle: Yes, I remember some saying along the lines of "He who laughs last..."
Apr-04-08  talisman: hard to figure where VK went wrong here, but the point seems to be around move 20, as many k-bitzers seem to have zeroed in on.a GM on fischers' site made a good point about black's king being centralized and being critical...K.. should have exchanged ♕'s after black had castled.
Apr-05-08  Hesam7: After 30...Nd5:

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<< 31.h4?!>

During the game I believed this move was good, but now I have changed my mind. The idea behind it is to exchange most of the pawns, but the opening of the h-file gives the black rook a way to become active. Stronger was 31.h3! intending to meet 31...g5 with 32.g4, and if 31...h5 only then 32.h4.> Topalov

Fruit 2.3.1 also does not like 31.h4. Its top 3 choices @ depth 23 are:

[1] 31.h3 g6 32.Kf1 h6 33.Ke2 Nb4 34.Rcc7 Rd8 35.a3 Nd5 36.Rc6 Ra8 37.b3 N5f6 38.f4 Ne4 39.Rcc7 Rd8 40.Ra7 Kd6 41.Rc1 Nec5 42.Rd1 Ke7 43.b4 (-0.41)

[2] 31.Kf1 g5 32.h3 h5 33.Ke2 h4 34.f3 Rg8 35.Rc4 Kd6 36.e4 Nf4 37.Ke3 Rb8 38.Rxb8 Nxb8 39.Rc2 Nc6 40.b3 Ne5 41.Kd4 Nfd3 42.exf5 exf5 43.Rc8 Nf4 44.Rd8 Ke7 (-0.46)

[3] 31.b3 g5 32.g3 Nb4 33.Rcc7 Rd8 34.a3 Nd5 35.Rc6 Ra8 36.Kf1 h6 37.h3 h5 38.Ke2 Rd8 39.Ra6 Rc8 40.Raa7 N5f6 41.Rxa5 Rc2 42.Kf3 g4 43.hxg4 hxg4 44.Kg2 (-0.48)

Feb-09-09  notyetagm: 39 ?

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39 f3-f4

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<Keene: <<<A misjudgment. Kramnik wants to attack the g3-pawn but his advance allows the black knights to run riot in the centre.>>>>


44 ... ♘c5-e4

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Apr-22-10  Eric Farley: The one called seeminor is right! Topalov is a mediocre player compared with the masters of the past. And Kramnik is a pussyfooter. If Capablanca and Alekhine were alive today and brought themselves up to speed, they'd be ruling the roost easily!
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  kevin86: A good week for the Cavaliers;the knight rule again.
Apr-22-10  drpoundsign: WOW! I though black was getting beat bad at the beginning but somehow Tope turned it around.
Apr-22-10  WhiteRook48: f4 really allowed the knights to get in
Apr-22-10  RandomVisitor: After 13...Qc7

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Rybka 3:

<[+0.37] d=20 14.Nxd7> Nxd7 15.e4 Rd8 16.Qe2 Be7 17.Be3 0-0 18.Rfc1 Qb8 19.Rd1 Nf6 20.f3 Rxd1+ 21.Rxd1 Rc8 22.b3 h6 23.g3 Ba8 24.Ba6 Bb7

[+0.27] d=20 14.f4 Rd8 15.Bd2 Bd6 16.Rc1 Qb8 17.Nc4 Be7 18.Na5 0-0 19.Qe2 Bd5 20.Nc6 Bxc6 21.Bxc6 Rc8

Apr-22-10  Chess Network: 2 knights in the center moving freely about...I give that a value of 10+...a nice regrouping of the black pieces by Topalov.
Aug-23-12  SChesshevsky: <talisman: hard to figure where VK went wrong here, but the point seems to be around move 20>

I was kind of looking at 20. Qxb6, it gets the pawn but loses a tempo at ...Nd5 and then White loses another at N5b6 and it looks like Black consolidates pretty good.

Maybe 20. a3 puts it a little trickier to Black. 20...e5 then 21. Qxb4 etc. makes ...Nd5 less appealing and if Black has a more defensive 20... White can still go for b4 or try to use the time to better position.

Probably doesn't change the outcome but might offer more chances for an advantage.

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