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Vladimir Kramnik vs Veselin Topalov
"Veni, Vidi, WC" (game of the day Apr-03-2023)
Kramnik - Topalov World Championship Match (2006), Elista RUS, rd 10, Oct-08
Indian Game: Anti-Nimzo-Indian (E10)  ·  1-0



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Feb-03-08  talisman: <acirce> great post.this is what brought me to this game's 24th i'm sure has been recorded the BAD move but i'm tempted to go back and see what was said of white's 18th.the word guts comes to mind.
Feb-03-08  slomarko: reading Bareev's comments makes me *yawn*
Feb-03-08  KamikazeAttack: <To say that we would not like to be in Kramnik's shoes at the start of Game 10 - is an understatement. What did he feel and think at this point? That all his efforts and sacrifices had been in vain? The years he devoted to chess, the years of medical treatment? Could it be that Caissa and her friends had left him? Is it that easy, just to use the Appeals Committee to violate all ethical rules to come and win the Title, which is a Symbol of something more than just defining who plays better chess? Was it possible to think of nothing else except for the coming game? Maybe at best he might recall his match against Lékó, when he found himself in a similar situation - sick, without openings, behind on score - and did the impossible and kept the title? It's not only possible, but it has to be done! To come and play chess and forget about anything else in the world. That is true mastery.>

This is one of the reasons that sets Kramnik on the path of true greatness, what he did in macthes is the stuff of which great champions are made of. Over-coming adversity when seemingly there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

Feb-03-08  talisman: <slomarko> make sure you cover your mouth. :)
Mar-05-08  dabearsrock1010: didnt vlad say something like he didnt play f3 because he wanted to show his technique or something to this effect
Jul-11-08  Petrosianic: Blundering is no way to show off your technique, even if you do still have a won game after the blunder. A critical world championship game is not the right occasion for hotdogging.

Oct-04-08  Cactus: Did Kramnik end up suing FIDE? If so, did he win?
Apr-06-09  AnalyzeThis: The answer would be no. Because he won the match, Kramnik really didn't suffer any damages.
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  James Demery: My respect for Kramnik soared after this match. To overcome his health problems and then be accused of cheating and still come back after game 10 and win this match was just tremendous. I thought he might do the same against Anand who seems like a very similar player to Topalov, but Kramnik just couldn`t pull it off. My question is did Topalov REALLY think Kramnik was cheating or was that just payback for a perceived slight?
Mar-30-10  operative: I like this match a lot more than the 2008 WCC. It's a lot more dramtic, more exciting. 2008 is boring compared to this.
Mar-30-10  Buttinsky: Thanks to Silvio 'Dog and Pony' Danailov
Apr-11-13  RookFile: This game is one of the greatest clutch wins in chess history.
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  JohnJamieson: One thing that gets me about the whole toilet accusations... wouldn't a mobile phone chess engine at the time still be weaker than Kramnik anyway? I know some engines were getting up around 27-2800 at the time but surely a phone wouldn't be powerful enough to achieve that kind of accuracy?

At any rate the chess in this match was pretty phenomenal and exciting.

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  Everett: Now I’m not saying that Topalov was cheating during his amazing chess run in 2005, but it is often the case that those who suspect others of cheating are often the ones who know best how it’s done.
Jan-05-20  fabelhaft: <Now I’m not saying that Topalov was cheating during his amazing chess run in 2005, but it is often the case that those who suspect others of cheating are often the ones who know best how it’s done >

Do you recall that it was Topalov that was suggested to be cheating by the Russians long. before he claimed Kramnik was cheating? For exempel Bareev who was in Kramnik’s team stated he knew Topalov had been cheating for years, and meant that Kramnik’s best move in the match against Topalov was insisting on a constuction of the playing venue that stopped Topalov’s cheating.

Jan-05-20  Count Wedgemore: <but it is often the case that those who suspect others of cheating are often the ones who know best how it’s done>

Hillary Clinton being case in point.

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  Everett: <count Wedgemore> Trump too. Politicians, lobbyists, arch-capitalists and esp. real-estate moguls are all cut from the same cloth.
Jan-08-20  tonsillolith: Saying anything negative about Trump is biased, by definition.
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  OhioChessFan: Major groaner of a pun, in a good way.
Apr-03-23  nalinw: In a very good way OCF ..... outstanding game and pun ...
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  Teyss: The credit for this pun goes to <sfm>, I just submitted it. Let's rephrase: if you think it's not funny, it's his, otherwise it's mine.

Didn't think Missy would accept it so fast. It was the last decisive game of the match without a pun so we should be done with plumbing now. Good game and Kramnik's swiftest win.

Apr-03-23  faulty: epic fun pun
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  offramp: It was great to see Topalov totally duffed up.

Kramnik BEAT Topalov with the bottom of his size 14 shoes. Those shoes are WORTH SEEING.

Topalov had to return to his village using the road of shame (the B224). The villagers waited for Topalov with their pitchforks and torches.

Apr-03-23  sfm: <Teyss: The credit for this pun goes to [sfm], I just submitted it. Let's rephrase: if you think it's not funny, it's his, otherwise it's mine.>

I insist that the word 'not' be removed in above. Apart from that little detail, I highly admire your integrity!

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  Teyss: <sfm: I insist that the word 'not' be removed in above.>

Correction slip submitted: CG will change Ray Keene's comment to "However Kramnik’s forfeit from game five has still been rescinded by FIDE."

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