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Hansjuerg Kaenel vs Dmitrijus Chocenka
European Club Cup (2006), Fuegen AUT, rd 1, Oct-08
Zukertort Opening: Quiet system (A04)  ·  1-0



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Oct-16-06  cyruslaihy: doesn't e8 gives white the same material advantage?
Oct-16-06  greensfield: Many ways to skin this cat. I got 32.Qxb7
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  Peligroso Patzer: The version of Fritz that I use (7) rates the position after 31. ... Qxc8 as nearly +8.00 in White's favor, and there are many moves that preserve a huge advantage. Fritz7's first choice was 32. Qc6, with my personal; choice (32. Rd8+) taking second place.
Oct-16-06  greensfield: <cyruslaihy><ReikiMaster><An Englishman> Out of the several viable continuations suggested on this post ie 32.Qxb7
I found 32.e8=Q+ the most difficult to get to grips with to force a quick win.
Oct-16-06  ganesh957: Although the position is easy to play since it's obviously winning, it's quite difficult to find out THE best move.

According to F9, I didn't choose the best one with Qxb7, even if this is still winning.

Since the most efficient solution is not obvious I wouldn't call this puzzle a monday one.

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  gawain: I saw Rd8+ right away and was so satisfied that I did not look further.
Oct-16-06  Castle In The Sky: Got it. It's a Monday-Tuesday puzzle, as with most Monday puzzles, everyone complains that it's too easy. That's not happening today.
Oct-16-06  cizio2: 32.Qxb7 it's too easy.
Oct-16-06  ianD: MBM
Must be monday!
Oct-16-06  YouRang: Very easy. It's almost always wonderful to have a pawn on the 7th rank, a rook on an adjacent file, and the opponent's king on the 8th rank.
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  kevin86: It's not just a material gain,mate is in the offing for white. 33...♖xd8 34 exd8=♕+ ♔g7(or ♔f7) 35 ♕f8#

or 33... ♔g7 34 e8=♕ threatens the rook and ♕f8#-black is gone.

Oct-16-06  TopaLove: I think people who found 32.Rd8+ shouldnīt claim they solved the puzzle. 23.Qxb7 is a lot better. But I know itīs hard to assume you didnīt solve a monday puzzle. Thatīs a matter of ego...
Oct-16-06  zb2cr: Found 32. Qxb7 and the followup in a few seconds.
Oct-16-06  JYMMI: I've gotten this one, very easy puzzle.
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  playground player: Got the Queen sac right away (and the ensuing moves, too)--but then I had almost exactly the same position in an on-line game last night. I solved it when it counted, so solving the puzzle was easy.
Oct-16-06  Stonewaller2: I'm partial to 32. ♖d8+ but it's a matter of taste. I'd rather play the ♕ vs. ♖ endgame than the ♕ + ♗ vs. ♕, once I make luft for my ♔ of course. Black's ♘ isn't going much of anywhere after 32. ... ♕xd8 33. exd8=♕+ ♖xd8 34. g3 other than to get exchanged off; if he tries to defend it with 34. ... ♖d7 or ♖b8 then 35. ♕c6 seals the deal.
Oct-16-06  ccolby: If
32. Rd8+ Nxd8
33. e8+ Kg7
34. Bf8+ Kg8 or Kh8
35. Bh6# by discovery
Oct-16-06  Trouble: this one was pretty easy
Oct-16-06  Holmstrom: Easy problem. Oh yes.
Oct-16-06  ennar: I know Mondays are easy... but there are so many solutions.
Oct-16-06  vinohradska: 30.. Qe8 was a terrible move for black, no? Why not 30.. Rxc2?
Oct-16-06  schnarre: Even I saw this one!
Oct-16-06  GannonKnight: I got it, but as you say, it's a tough position for White to lose.

How about 32. Rd8+ Qxd8 33. exd8Q+ Rxd8 34. Qxb7?? Rd1#

Oops ... overlooks the back rank mate. Well, maybe in blitz.

Oct-17-06  Suzuki50: <ccolby: If
32. Rd8+ Nxd8
33. e8+ Kg7
34. Bf8+ Kg8 or Kh8
35. Bh6# by discovery>

U didn't want 34. Qf8# ? (just for fun)
Oct-17-06  Stonewaller2: Last nite Ruffian found 34. ... ♖d5 in my line given below but succumbed after 35. ♗d6 ♘xd6 36. ♖xd6 ♕c3, after which Black's ♔-side ♙s fell.
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