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Gerd Gnichtel vs Pontus Carlsson
European Club Cup (2006), rd 1, Oct-08
Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto. Check Variation Intermezzo Line (E15)  ·  0-1

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Oct-19-06  alfilbueno: <ahmadov> If 28 Nf3 Rb2 also gets the White queen trapped.
Oct-19-06  ahmadov: <alfilbueno: <ahmadov> If 28 Nf3 Rb2 also gets the White queen trapped.> Yes, but then 29.Qxb2 Nxb2 30. Rxb2, which is better than what happened in the game. Queen is exchanged with one rook and knight.
Oct-19-06  eblunt: <Ahmadov> But after 28 Nf3, what about 28 .... Bxd4+ 29 Nxd4 Qb6 ! 30 Qc3 Rfd8 winning the pinned Knight. black forgets the Queen trap and wins a Knight instead
Oct-19-06  ahmadov: <eblunt> I have to check that, but it is still better than having a knight against a Queen.
Oct-19-06  eblunt: <ahmadov> True. I was just pointing out a better line for black against your Nf3 defence, which would have White resigning in 4 or 5 moves anyway.
Oct-19-06  ahmadov: <eblunt> I understand you and fully agree with you.

Oct-19-06  ahmadov: By the way, I also understand that it is easier to offer moves now than making the most correct moves while playing ;).
Oct-19-06  rookattack: Cant 28.Nf3 be refuted by 28...Rb2 29.Qxb2 Rxb2 30.Rxb2 Rfd8 and white loses an extra bishop?
Oct-19-06  rookattack: i am an amateur in chess. Can someone please explain me the significance of 5.Bb4+. Doesnt it just help white to develop a piece.
Oct-19-06  Tariqov: I am not to smart in this opening but i think it is to divert the white bishop to a less useful square(i.e Bd2 instead of Bb2)
Oct-19-06  eblunt: <rook attack> .... 30 Rxb2 Rfd8 doesn't win the bishop , White can play 31 Rb1 and 32 Bxc5. Blacks d8 Rook still has to protect the back row.
Oct-19-06  greensfield: Missed it. Looked at 27...c3 and 27...Rfd8.
<DWINS><nice mate you found with 31...Rxd2 >
Oct-19-06
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  gawain: Got this one. The first time I have ever solved one of Chessgames' queen-trap puzzles. Fell into it after deciding that Black could not possibly cause trouble with any move other than the check with the bishop.
Oct-19-06  zb2cr: Missed the puzzle today, oops.
Oct-19-06  scottnewhouse: I saw 27...c3 28. Nb3 Qxa4 but Bc5 wins more forcefully.
Oct-19-06
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  gawain: I meant ... Bc5 of course, not a bishop "check" but an x-ray of the White King through the White bishop.
Oct-19-06  Parriotblue: I thought 27...Bxc5, 28.Bxc5 Qxc5+ and 29.... Rb2. I think this line is much better, isn't?
Oct-19-06  YouRang: I thought 27...c5 looked okay (I think it wins a pawn), but I figured it wasn't THE solution.
Oct-19-06
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  kevin86: I had no clue,must be getting cose to the end of the week.:)
Oct-19-06  bleedingpack: <Parriotblue> 27...Bc5 28.Bxc5 Qxc5+ 29. Kh1(f1) Rb2 and White can play 30.Qc3 since Black's queen is no longer quarding c3.
Oct-19-06  The17thPawn: Saw 27..Bc5 and 28...Rb2 but I had white taking with Qxb2. never looked at Qxc4. I guess half a solution is better than none.
Oct-19-06  RandomVisitor: computer results:

(18-ply)

(-3.13) 27...♗c5 28.♗e3 ♖b2

(-1.98) 27...♖fd8 28.♗e3 ♘b2

(-1.80) 27...♖bd8 28.♗e3 ♗c5

(-1.74) 27...c3 28.♘b3 ♕xa4

(-1.59) 27...♘b2 28.♗xb2 c3

Oct-19-06  Trouble: i got this one
Oct-19-06  Oregon104: This quiz is dumb. How is it supposed to be solved?
Oct-19-06  Parriotblue: <bleedingpack> You really show me the way. Thanks
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