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Alexander Grischuk vs Magnus Carlsen
Tal Memorial (2006), Moscow RUS, rd 9, Nov-16
Queen's Gambit Declined: Ragozin Defense (D38)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Nov-16-06  mazetas: I must thanks CG for the live coverage of the games, cause the official site #$%^*.
Nov-16-06  EmperorAtahualpa: Why not 17.Rxc5?
Nov-16-06  jjp: I wrote move 16 for a reason 16.Bxf6 was actually played.
Nov-16-06  boz: White looks good. Once the c-pawn falls, it's an IQP position with none of the drawbacks.
Nov-16-06  Marmot PFL: Why take f6 if he was going to plat Nb3 anyway I wonder
Nov-16-06  LoveThatJoker: Because Grischuk has time still to play Rxc5. Also remember that he is gaining a tempo by playing Nb6 - attacking the Queen.
Nov-16-06  slomarko: Pono, Leko, Gelfand, Aronian thank you all for the interesting chess you provided today. not. i think Grischuk-Carlsen is heading for a draw too.
Nov-16-06
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  Mateo: Draw official.
Nov-16-06  LoveThatJoker: Sorry...Nb3
Nov-16-06  firebyrd: <Mateo> if <16Nb3 Qb6 17Nxc5> Grischuk would still have the bishop pair
Nov-16-06  percyblakeney: Oops...
Nov-16-06  artemis: Emperor: by playing the Nb3 move first, White is developing his knight first, then taking the pawn. My coach (a life master) has a saying that I love, and has made my game much stronger " a piece that an amateur will take in one move, an expert will take in two, and a master in 3." the point is, why take the piece when you can improve your position first, then take the piece later?
Nov-16-06  Marmot PFL: Draw= maybe grischuk should have headed for rook ending.
Nov-16-06
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  chessgames.com: Well that leaves us with one more game. Stay tuned, we might as well watch that one draw as well.
Nov-16-06  boz: This is ridiculous.
Nov-16-06  LoveThatJoker: Yes Artemis. Thank you for sharing that. I've seen Athahualpa post before. He is no novice. But indeed it feels good to hear an important lesson from a Chess Coach. Thank you.
Nov-16-06  EmperorAtahualpa: Another draw. :( I think I can hear Tal turning in his grave!
Nov-16-06  slomarko: i cant believe it!! this is an absolute scandal!!!
Nov-16-06  charms: this makes me wanna guess the outcome of the Morosevitch-Shirov encounter.
Nov-16-06
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  Peligroso Patzer: Another draw. This calls to mind Botvinnik's quip that it would be an improvement on the standard tournament schedule if there were no last round.
Nov-16-06  artemis: Joker: I know that he is no novice. But I would not have considered myself a novice when he gave me that advice. There are many experienced chess players who have not heard many useful rules of thumb like that one.
Nov-16-06  Drawnomore: why they no longer want to play?????????Carlsen will have had a lot of work to gain a draw!!!
Nov-16-06  WarmasterKron: <<EmperorAtahualpa> Another draw. :( I think I can hear Tal turning in his grave!>

Really? A quick look at the database shows that Tal played more than 600 draws of 25 moves or less. He may have been a great attacker, but he was hardly vehemently anti-draw like, for instance, Topalov.

Nov-16-06  Ulhumbrus: Carlsen played for a win, first choosing the Ragozin defence to the QP, then offering a pawn , then taking one. However Grischuk did not choose to risk losing in an attempt to win, so the outcome was a draw. A quiet looking draw may mean simply that either player's attempts to win or to gain an advantage have not succeeded.
Nov-16-06  slomarko: as Bobby said far too many games at the top level are prearenged!
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