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Svetozar Gligoric vs Joseph Rosenstein
64th US Open (1963), Chicago, IL USA, rd 3, Aug-13
Nimzowitsch Defense: Williams Variation (B00)  ·  1-0



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Apr-29-10  Patriot: This seemed really easy. At first I wanted to drop the knight into e6, which looks like a really good square positionally but doesn't seem forcing enough though it is a check. Then I looked at another check, which is much more violent. 19.Qxe7+ Qxe7 20.Bd6, winning a piece since 20...Qxd6 21.Re8#.

I admit wasting a little time looking at 20...Nf7 or 20...g6 but white doesn't have to play very accurately and can just play 21.Bxe7+ and retreat if he likes, playing on while up a piece. 20...Ne6 is obviously lost as well since white can play 21.Bxe7+ followed by 22.Rxe6.

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  LIFE Master AJ: I honestly was stumped by this one ... although I gave up after 30 seconds or so. (Its early, and I have not had my coffee yet.)
Apr-29-10  tivrfoa: <Please someone post the link of yesterday puzzle> This one was not hard. Like <randomsac> I realized Re8#. Very fast game. I liked it. xD
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  doubledrooks: Missed it. Went for 19. Bd6, overlooking 19...Qxd6.
Apr-29-10  Patriot: <tivrfoa>: <Please someone post the link of yesterday puzzle>

Here's a link to the game: Suba vs Hebden, 1983

It's white's move: 60.?

I'm not sure how you can avoid seeing the game move however.

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  kevin86: The end is similar to Morphy's Opera House game. The queen is lured away and the rook mates.
Apr-29-10  tivrfoa: Thanks a lot <Patriot>. I was able to avoid seeing the move :) but I failed to find the correct one :( It was an interesting end game.
Apr-29-10  reztap: Very nice. I drew Gligoric in a simul he gave in Cleveland some years back. He was very generous with his draws. A real gentleman.
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  chrisowen: A thorny issue where Rosestein's crown's slipping up under the weight of crossfire. In the ring qxe7 queen take scalps him and tears a hole once cleric nails it pinning the king. Of the dues owed to SG, suss 1.Nc6 looks like at top level. The point us gather would stem from pawn pile at arranging defence 3f5.. sedition that plants white to reap ergotic.
Apr-29-10  A Karpov Fan: got it (easy!)
Apr-29-10  bengalcat47: To quote a famous play, "Rosenstein and Guildenstern are dead." Seroously though, the Nimzovich Defense (1. e4, Nc6) only found favor with its famous creator. There are very few instances of it being played by someone other than Nimzovich.
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  paulalbert: I thought this one was easy for Thursday, but very instructive.

Paul Albert

Apr-29-10  VincentL: After looking at this "medium" position for a few minutes, I see the following:

19. Qe7+. Now if 19....Qxe7 white continues 20. Bd6 ! winning the black queen.

Black cannot play 20.... Qxd6 because of 21. Re8 mate.

This must be the solution. Time to check.

Apr-29-10  ROO.BOOKAROO: Anybody understood what Chrisowne meant to say? Is this English or what?
Apr-29-10  Patriot: <<ROO.BOOKAROO>: Anybody understood what Chrisowne meant to say? Is this English or what?>

It's not so much the "what" but the "why" that bothers me...

To each their own I guess.

Apr-29-10  wals: Rybka 3 1-cpu: 3071mb hash: depth 15:

Black was battling to maintain equality from the start and self-destructed with:-

16...Bb7, + 6.23. Kf7, + 2.23 may have given him some hope.

Apr-29-10  YouRang: Took me a long time to see this, which is a shame because it's not that hard. The pattern with the bishop & rook mate on d8 is right there, waiting for a couple pieces to be cleared away.

But it does require a bishop sac that not only deflects the black queen from its defense of d8, but it also pins the queen to prevent it from taking my rook with check. Good puzzle.

Apr-29-10  Utopian2020: Rosenstein has only one game in the CG database. Hopefully, this game was not among his best.
Apr-29-10  ZorinNighthawk: Took about five minutes for me. First one I have got but only been coming to the sight for three days now. This one seems easier than the last two days.
Apr-29-10  rapidcitychess: Why not 20.Rxe7 Kxe7 21 Rd1+ winning?
Apr-29-10  PinnedPiece: <A Karpov Fan: got it (easy!)>

Same for me. Looking at this tomorrow or the next day, maybe not...but things fell rapidly in place today and I saw the unavoidable mate with the rook fairly quickly.


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  Once: <bengalcat47: the Nimzovich Defense (1. e4, Nc6) only found favor with its famous creator. There are very few instances of it being played by someone other than Nimzovich.>

Tony Miles used to play the nimzowich quite often, but then anyone who can beat Karpov with the St. George (1...a6) can't really be quoted as a role model for "sensible" chess openings.

Apr-30-10  TheaN: Thursday 29 April


Target: 3:30;000
Taken: >6

Material: =

Candidates: Ne6†, Qxe7† for a long time, Bd6....ah of course, <[Qxe7†]>

The candidates list pretty much sums up why it took me so long to find this one. It's hard to say Black is equal after 19.Ne6† Nxe6 (19....Kg8 20.Nxd8! ) 20.Qxe6 Qxe6 21.Rxe6 but White is not that much ahead. After 19.Qxe7†!? Qxe7 20.Rxe7? Kxe7 21.Re1†, 21....Ne6 probably draws somewhere but 21....Kd7 just wins. However, then I noticed the idea of using the pin on the Bishop on e7 with 19.Bd6, the only problem being 19....Qxd6 . Hey....

<19.Qxe7†! Qxe7 (19....Kg8 20.Qe8† Qxe8 21.Rxe8‡ 1-0) 20.Bd6 > and White will win at least a piece by winning the Queen back with a terrific position. The follow-up 20....Qxd6 21.Re8‡ should be rather obvious. Time to check.

Jan-13-18  malt: Would make a good puzzle for monday
Apr-23-20  ismet: pure clear game
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