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Stanislav Savchenko vs Artur Mikhailovich Kogan
Masters KO (2000), Cannes FRA, rd 4
Slav Defense: Quiet Variation. Pin Defense (D12)  ·  1-0



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Sep-10-07  pagliacci19: queen sacrifice, as usual....
Sep-10-07  MaxxLange: Some of you people should try looking at the position instead of looking at what day of the week it is
Sep-10-07  a30seclegend: <greensfield> I think any move other than 39.e4 and black plays f5 which is still probally losing but a little more difficult.
Sep-10-07  YouRang: Ha! I actually spent a bit of time on this. I appreciate having different types of puzzles, particularly on Monday. It develops different skills.

Today's puzzle involved the skill of recognizing a trapped piece. Once you see it, the answer is trivial.

Actually, I started off thinking it was a 'trap a piece' puzzle, but I was thinking of trapping the other knight on g1, which also appeared to have a grim future.

Sep-10-07  twin phoenix: wow if a GM can play 38.--,f6?? maybe i'm not such an idiot!!! easy to get complacent and not look ahead.

from a tournament players point of view I wouldn't resign either after loss of knight. i have salvaged so many points and half points in positions like this that i just will not resign until i see mate in one.... sometimes i continue playing just because i'm so irritated by my blunder i just want to get some more moves in. however, against a GM the game is over but i also would make my opponent earn the point. it may seem rude but hey it's kinda rude for someone to beat me!!! in class 'B' and below one should never resign if you're only down a piece. believe me i've won too many games i should've lost! (and yes lost too many games i should have won...)

Sep-10-07  mworld: I got this one but I thought for sure I was missing something - to not have mate on a Monday just seemed bizarre lol.
Sep-10-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <MaxxLange: Some of you people should try looking at the position instead of looking at what day of the week it is>

My 800 ELO kid had no problems finding the solution. Of course, not having a preconceived expectation of a sac-and-mate-in-2 solution, he had an unfair advantage :-)

Sep-10-07  YouRang: Going back to look at the game, it is certainly hard to see what inspired black to play 38...f6??, blocking off his knight's only escape.

Then, black proceeds to let his other knight get trapped. On move 43, his last knight could have escaped (at the expense of a pawn) with 43...Ng1+, eyeing escape at e2. If 44. Ke3, then 44...d4+ 45. Kxd4 Nf3+.

Not that it would change the outcome, but it changed the speed in which it arrives.

Sep-10-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <Fezzik: This is NOT a 1 star puzzle.>

Indeed, it is perhaps 1/2 star in difficulty. The goal is to find the best move. All it takes is go down a quick checklist:

- Can white deliver any checks? Nope.

- Can white capture anything? Nope.

- Can white make any threatening moves? e4

    * Any counterplay? Nope.

        + Any other quick threats to make? Nope.

Yeah, one could get suckered into trying to grab the other knight, but this would require several moves lookahead (and here the Monday rule is useful - if it takes more than 2 moves lookahead, you're looking at a wrong line on Monday).

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  kevin86: What was the purpose of this puzzle? No sacrifice,no sharp moves-no fun no nothing...Just make one move and say "gotcha"!

This puzzle had all the complexity of the Cleveland Browns' game plan vs Pittsburgh---or Michigan vs anybody.

Sep-10-07  rotgut: The comments about "no queen sacrifice" remind me of a riddle about a herring.

Riddler: What hangs on the wall, is green, wet, and whistles. Guesser: I give up.
Riddler: A herring.
Guesser: But a herring doesn't hang on the wall!
Riddler: So hang it there!
Guesser: But a herring isn't green!
Riddler: So paint it green!
Guesser: But it's not wet.
Riddler: After you paint it, it will be wet.
Guesser: But herrings don't whistle!
Riddler: I just put that in to make it harder.

Kibitzer: Why no queen sacrifice? I just put that in to make it harder. :-)

I would argue that you only get half credit if you did not laugh out loud when you saw the other knight get trapped.

Sep-10-07  MaxxLange: purpose of the puzzle? to determine if you can see that a piece is trapped
Sep-10-07  newton296: 38)...f6?? is just horrible , trapping his own knight ? must have had time trouble as he's hadn't made the time control at move 40 yet !

found 39) e4 ! instantly . thought it to easy and pondered it for a minute.

I should have had more confidence since it's monday .

Sep-10-07  newton296: < I would argue that you only get half credit if you did not laugh out loud when you saw the other knight get trapped.>

lol! that was hard to believe !

In one of my own games I prevented mate , only to forget the threat on the next move and get mated. that was a downer !

one of my classic game's no doubt.

Sep-10-07  chessamateur: TGIM (Thank God It's Monday)!
Sep-10-07  MostlyAverageJoe: < I would argue that you only get half credit if you did not laugh out loud when you saw the other knight get trapped.>

I think a groan of exasperation upon seeing that black did not resign immediately after e4 also qualifies for a full point :-)

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  Peligroso Patzer: <newton296: 38)...f6?? is just horrible , trapping his own knight ? must have had time trouble as he's hadn't made the time control at move 40 yet !>

The scoresheet indicates this was round 4.5 of a Masters KO event. Although I am not familiar with this specific event (Cannes 2000), it likely involved a series of short (very possibly only two games at a normal time control) elimination matches, and round 4.5 would probably indicate this was the fifth game played between these players in a fourth-round match. The fifth game in such a match would almost certainly have been in a tie-break stage, and would have likely used a rapid time control, if not blitz. So it is very possible both players were short of time, which would fully justify Black's decision to play on after 40. exd5 until he lost the second Knight.

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  fm avari viraf: It's a case of two good Bishops versus two bad Knights so it's a won game for White. Now, just 39.e4 trapping the Knight shows the power of the dark coloured Bishop & here, Black should have resigned but continued to see how his other Knight gets trapped.
Sep-10-07  syracrophy: <Wolfgang01: syracrophy: The worst monday comment i've ever read. Because there's not your expected sacrifice or mate in 2 it does have his own difficulty. I had 2 look 2 times to see the trapped knight. And the rest of the game is done >

I won't respond that. It's too funny to hear when mutes talk :-)

Sep-10-07  Rodrigo Gutierrez: Mmmh, like many of you guys, it also took me a couple of minutes to figure this one out. I don't think this is because there is no mating theme (I spent those two minutes trying to see how to pin the knight: I never thought there was mate involved); I think it just isn't immediately obvious that the knight is suddenly left without retreat. Hence 38... f6??. I'm sure 39. e4 was like a sudden cold shower for Kogan!
Sep-10-07  Monkey King: Took me around 20 seconds, which is longer then usual on monday. But still, I agree with <Marmot>, a 1 move puzzle seems too easy, even for monday.
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  luzhin: Night night, knight knight.
Sep-10-07  YouRang: Or, "Good night bad knight".
Sep-10-07  GrandPatzerSCL: Lol... I thought it was Bd1...
Jul-12-09  sleepyirv: Anyone can hang a knight, hanging two is just pure carelessness.
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