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Sergey Karjakin vs Alexey Shirov
Corus Group A (2007), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 6, Jan-19
Sicilian Defense: Lasker-Pelikan. Sveshnikov Variation Chelyabinsk Variation (B33)  ·  1-0

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Jan-19-07  alicefujimori: Shirov lost again...This is 4 or 5 in a row? Definitely not Shirov's tournament...
Jan-19-07  dehanne: 26...Bf4 seems a desperate gamble in an already lost or nearly lost position. Maybe he overlooked that after 35.Kf2 he can't pick up the knight on d5, the point being that white plays 36.Qf8+ Qg8 and after exchanging queens the a5 pawn is ready for the touchdown.
Jan-19-07  Marmot PFL: If we don't know who will be first at least we have a good idea who will be last.
Jan-19-07  Ulhumbrus: Instead of 26..Bf4, 26..Rf5 threatens ..Rh5, and what is White going to do?
Jan-19-07  Cyphelium: <Ulhumbrus> Presumably 26.- ♖f5 27. g3 ♕h3 28. ♕e4 ♖h5 29. ♕g2 holds.
Jan-19-07  Jafar219: What is wrong with Shirov? Is he ill or what?

Probably Kasparov was right when said that Shirov is well informed patzer or something like that.

Jan-19-07  Shams: I like Garry, but he can really be a horse's ass. He called Judit Polgar a "trained dog" too. Sometimes I wish Seirawan hadn't restrained himself from punching Kasparov in the nose. :)
Jan-19-07  euripides: I think the phrase may have been 'enthusiastic amateur'. It may, of course, have had something to do with a match that Gazza wasn't keen to play.
Jan-19-07  Shams: wasn't keen to play? how do you figure? It was Shirov that held out for more money than the sponsors were willing to put up.

Garry has done to Shirov what cocaine did to Scarface.

Jan-19-07  micartouse: <Sometimes I wish Seirawan hadn't restrained himself from punching Kasparov in the nose. :)>

Kasparov's punishment is that he can't restrain himself from making ludicrous, sometimes contradictory pronouncements that are proven wrong on an average of once every other week. :)

Jan-19-07  Shams: micartouse, that is only a punishment if you are aware you are being ridiculous. nothing is as infuriating as knowing that the chauvinist has no idea how poorly he comes off.

still, Garry is literally risking his life for the sake of his country. I have nothing but admiration for that.

Jan-19-07  Atking: Very impressive too this Karjakin. He is playing as Smyslov in his best days. A commanding Nd5 against a Bishop who wait all the game to get alive. The position looks open and good for the future of a Bishop only superficially. Where does Shirov go wrong ? is not an easy question. Of course Bf4 was a try to give a meaning to the "dead" bishop but what else already the a pawn is monster. I suggest prudently (As best players are there) to keep the rook for the moment in a file and 24. ...e4 with some ideas like Rf5 and e3 with evantually Qa8 hoping some of you will test this line with computers.
Jan-19-07  Magician of Riga: Anyone mind posting links to where Garry called Judit Polgar a "trained dog" and when Seirawan almost punched Garry in the face?
Jan-20-07  midknightblue: how do you almost punch someone in the face? They suddenly jump, and your fist lands on their chest instead or what?
Jan-20-07  ahmadov: Yeap, the real Shirov is already a history...
Jan-20-07  ahmadov: <Probably Kasparov was right when said that Shirov is well informed patzer or something like that.> If he said that then he is a jerk...
Jan-20-07  Lt. Col. Majid: <If he said that then he is a jerk...>

I won't put it past Kasparov. He has a nasty, vile mouth on him. lol.

Jan-20-07
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  tpstar: <Magician of Riga> Kasparov vs Seirawan, 1988

I've never heard the other one before.

Jan-21-07  alicefujimori: <Probably Kasparov was right when said that Shirov is well informed patzer or something like that.>No, Kasparov did not say that. Kasparov called Shirov a "talented amateur".

<I like Garry, but he can really be a horse's ass. He called Judit Polgar a "trained dog" too.>Yes, and that led to Nigel Short calling Judit "Lassie".

Jan-21-07
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  JointheArmy: He called Anand a coffeehouse player as well.
Jan-21-07  laskereshevsky: HELLO
if i remember well after the GAZZA saiyng:

" SHIROV IS A TALENTED AMATEUR"...somebody ( maybe the same SHIROV ) SAID :

" KASPAROV INSTEAD IS A UNTALENTED PROFESSIONAL ".....

A nice provocation.........

Jan-21-07  Shams: <He called Anand a coffeehouse player as well.> now that one I have never heard, and find a bit unbelievable. Kasparov has always been complimentary to Vishy's game, I thought
Feb-01-07
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  Mateo: 27...Bxg3 is just another wrong sacrifice from Shirov in this tournament. A better try should be 27...Qh3 28.gxf4 exf4 (threatening f3) 29.f3 Rf5 30.Qh2 Qxh2+ 31.Kxh2 Rxd5. Black won a pawn but White has a dangerous passed pawn. On the all, advantage to White but Black may hold.

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