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Ladislav Mista vs Jiri Fichtl
Czechoslovakia (1974)
French Defense: Winawer. Petrosian Variation (C16)  ·  1-0

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Apr-01-07
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  dzechiel: Saw the first three moves for white and that it led to a lot of good stuff. Certainly didn't see this one to the end of the game.
Apr-01-07  Fezzik: Ok, I missed one. I didn't see 19.Nf4! and thought White's attack was simply busted. I'm still skeptical that this entire line will hold up to analysis, but White certainly played brilliantly.
Apr-01-07  chessmoron: WHAT!!!! Thought there was an April Fool's joke somewhere. I got 17.Nxe6!! and 19.Nf4!
Apr-01-07  Tactic101: Same thing with <dzechiel>. Beautiful

Note: Chessgames.com should be ashamed! They should have put a brilliancy by NN or something. Even better, how about these puzzles!

Lindemann vs Echtermeyer, 1893 Move 3: White to play and self-destruct

L Darling vs R Wood, 1983 Move 2: White to play and suicide

J Spencer vs Takacs, 1981 Move 4: White to play. Is there any hope?

Apr-01-07  Ingolf: Saw the text line until 19.Nf4 where I expected Qb7, covering the 7th rank. Then 20.Rfd1 gxh4 21.Qg6 Ngf6 (Qc6 22.Rac1) 22.exf6+ Nxf6 23.Re1 should win for white.

An extraordinarily aesthetic position after 19.Nf4, the pinning piece is en prise and the knight threatens a fork (even a triple fork after 19.-Qxe5) by forking itself.

Apr-01-07  Ingolf: In my line above, Fritz tells me (what I should have seen myself) that white should of course (after 19.Nf4 Qb7 20.Rfd1 gxh4) insert 21.Ng6+ Kf7 22.Nxh4+ Ke7 23.Ng6+ Kf7 24.Nf4+ Ke7 before 25.Qg6, so that 25.- Ng5 can be met with h4.
Apr-01-07
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  al wazir: I didn't come close to solving this. Incidentally, black's moves aren't all forced. What if he plays, say, 17...Rc8 or Qxe5 ?
Apr-01-07  chessmoron: 17...Rc8 18.Nxg5!! and black's pawn structure has weaken severely.

Even with 17...Qxe5, 18.Qxe4 white is up a major piece.

Apr-01-07
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  al wazir: <chessmoron>: You're right about 17...Rc8 18. Nxg5, but you can't mean 17...Qxe5 18. Qxe4 because of 18...Qxe4.
Apr-01-07  Ashram64: saw the Nxe6 but didn't out the whole line...however in general, not a bad week
Apr-01-07  chessmoron: <al wazir> My mistake. The line was pertaining to 17...Qxe6.
Apr-01-07
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  dzechiel: <Tactic101> Those are some short games! In my years of playing tournament chess I can recall two times where someone said "Checkmate" in the first few minutes of the round.

The first time was in a high-school match when the games had just gotten underway and I heard my future brother-in-law say "Checkmate!" I wasn't sure I heard correctly, but he was already standing up from the board. The game went 1 e4 f6 2 Nf3 g5 3 Nxg5 fxg5 4 Qh5#.

The second time was a few years later at the Orange Chess Club. We had just started the round when I heard one of the players say "Mate!" and his opponent say "What!? Oh, no!" This game went 1 e4 e5 2 Nc3 Nf6 3 Bc4 Nxe4 4 Qh5 Nf6?? (book is 4...Nd6) 5 Qxf7#.

Apr-01-07  Tactic101: I was really just joking. ;) An April Fool's joke, chess style. Still, would have been very amusing if Chessgames gave us a very easy puzzle for Sunday, for a change.
Apr-01-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <chessmoron: Even with 17...Qxe6, 18.Qxe4 white is up a major piece.> (line corrected as per the latter addition).

Which major piece? I see a positional advantage and extra pawn, but no extra pieces.

This is a second puzzle in a row where the winning line in the game, a.k.a "the solution", is based on bad play by the losing side.

Black should've played 17 ... Qxe3, and the white has much more work to do than he had to do in the game.

Apr-01-07  tallinn: Equipped with only a feeling that Nxe6 is the winning move I played it against Fritz to see Bd6!? as an answer. I thought "gee that's easy" and continued with exd6 Qxe6 Qxe6 fxe6 Bg3 Nxg3 Nxg3 but after Nf6 I started to worry on how to defend the pawn on d6 I had won.

Needles to say that there is a better continuation for white after Bd6. According to Fritz analysis it is almost as complicated as the continuation after fxe6. Maybe some of you can get more fun out of the problem by finding the best answer of white to Bd6. I did not see it.

Apr-01-07  jmrulez2004: to al wazir..if 17.Rc8...18Rd1!
Apr-01-07  goldfarbdj: I used to occasionally help direct scholastic chess tournaments, and in all of them, in every round, there would be three or four games ending in about ten seconds with the Scholar's Mate or some variation on it. (1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nc6 3. Qh5 Nf6?? 4. Qxf7#.)
Apr-01-07
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  Gilmoy: Mmm. Saw it through 19 .. Qb5 (to not lose another tempo to a white Rook). Saw and rejected Rd1 (since d7 is covered). Saw 20 Rac1 (cute threat: 21 Rc7+ Kd8 22 Nxe6# -- we just had that puzzle last week :), forcing Rd8. Saw the R{c7+,c8} theme (cute point: 22 .. Rd7 cuts the black Queen from e8, exposing Qe8# in some lines). That's clearly a win.

Saw the line fragment in which Black returns the Knight to get space -- and that it fails. Didn't guess Black's exact move order -- I expected 23 .. 1-0 :)

Picturesque: After 20 Rac1, Black's Kingside has no moves. That's some compensation.

Apr-01-07  Kwesi: <Tactic101> I think last time they did a puzzle where the solution was an 'en passant' move; maybe today the puzzle should have been something like this:

White to play


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Apr-01-07
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  gambitfan: <Puzzle of the day (01/04/2007)>

Contrary to the <"game of the day"> (a prearranged game which lead to a stalemate in 10 moves and a resulting "punishment" of both players) and the <"player of the day"> (NN!) this <"puzzle of the day"> does not seem to be a hoax!

I am proud to say that I found the first move... but not the long follow-up (9 moves!)... I am not that good!


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White to play: 17.

Apr-01-07  Themofro: Well i played Qh5 first before Nxe6 with the idea of following up with Nxe6 Qxe6 Nd4 queen moves and e6. Nice puzzle.
Apr-01-07
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  fm avari viraf: It's a nice game where I like the Chessic ideas. Mista utilising the advantage, tactically outplayed Black!
Apr-01-07  johnsbrother: This one like most weekend puzzles got me. Can someone please let me know where to find a program that will allow me to cut and paste the moves from my internet games into a game viewer? thanks
Apr-01-07  outplayer: Is 17...fxe6 really forced. As Black i would play 17...Qxe6.
Apr-01-07
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  bright1: To outplayer, if 17. ... Qxe6 then white plays Qxe4 and the rook on a8 is hanging so black doesn't have time to play g5xBh4.

I think after Fichtl moves his rook, Mista can play Bg3 and has not only a stronger position but also a lead in development and an extra pawn.

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