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Petar Smederevac vs Carel Benjamin van den Berg
Hoogovens (1965), Beverwijk NED, rd 4, Jan-09
English Opening: King's English. Two Knights' Variation Smyslov System (A22)  ·  1-0

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May-13-15  turcoknight: What if 30..Ne3? How Will white Continue his attack?
May-13-15  anandrulez: <turcoknight> good one. just 31.qxg7# I guess :-)
May-13-15
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  Robert Samuels: <Turcokmght> if 30...Ne3 I would start with 31.Qxg7#.
May-13-15
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  Tiggler: 24. ..Rf8 was the losing move. After 24. ..g5 white is fighting for a draw.
May-13-15  devere: After 29.Re1! Nxe1 30.Rxe1 Ng3+! 31.Kg2! Nf5 32.Kf1! (or 31...f3+ 32.Kf2!) White wins.


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May-13-15  turcoknight: Haha sorry for this fool question
May-13-15  fenno: Although it is easy to see that white needes to hurry and find forcing moves, it took some 10 minutes for me to find 29. Re1, and then a minute more to find 31. f7+ (instead of 31. Re7).

Why I had to check three times that the initial move is not 29. Qxf5, and twice that it isn't 29. Qxg7, I do not know. :)

May-13-15  fenno: Oh, I did not see devere's 30. - Ng3+! Black gets many "revenge checks" in 31. Kg2 f3+ 32. Kf2 Qb2+ 33. Kxf3 Qc3+ 34. Kg2 Qb2+ 35. Kxg3 Qc3+ 36. Kg2 Qb2+ 37. Kf1
May-13-15  hadi706: واقعا سخت تر از سطح متوسط بود من این دور رو باختم دیدن حرکت رخ واقعا سخت بود برام
May-13-15  wooden nickel: Oops, I discarded that move in the beginning and was too busy trying everything else... everything else seems to be losing for White!
May-13-15  CHESSTTCAMPS: White has an exchange for two pawns and pressure on the king by means of the semi-open g-file. Black threatens 29... Qe4+ 30.Rg2 Ng3+ winning the queen. Spotting black's principle threat first would have helped me find the solution faster than I did. There is no immediate breakthrough on the g-file, but white can meet black's threat and attack at the same time.

29.Re1! decisively exploits black's back-rank weakness:

29... Nxe1 (Ne3 30.Qxg7#) 30.Rxe1 Qd4 (Nxh4 or Ne3 allows 31.Qxg7#, while 30... Re8 allows f7+ forcing mate) 31.f7+! Kf8|h8 32.Re8+ forces mate.

May-13-15
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  patzer2: <Tiggler: 24. ..Rf8 was the losing move. After 24. ..g5 white is fighting for a draw.> Yes 24...Rf8, allowing 25. Raf1! (the winning move that set up our puzzle position win 29. Re1! ), is apparently the losing move.

I also agree 24...g5 is a good alternative, though Fritz slightly prefers 24...Ne7 .

After 24...g5 (instead of 24...Rf8?), Fritz indicates White must find 25. Qh5! to avoid losing. And even then White has to find a way through difficult continuations like 25... Qf6! 26.Rxg5+! hxg5 27. Rg1! Re7! 28. Rxg5+! Rg7! =.

P.S.: Earlier, instead of 23...Nxd3, the alternative 23...Qf6! to gives Black good winning chances.

May-13-15
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  Sally Simpson: Stupid puzzle..mumble...grumble...

Yes a miserable fail.


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Black is threatening Qe4+ and then Nf5-g3+ winning things so 'no time for quiet moves.' it must be done with checks.'

When you hit upon the first idea it's hard to shake it off.

1.f7+ Kf8 no good checks but 2.Re1 NxR. 3.RxN stops checks and Re8+ is coming.How easy was that?

Not played that way. OK it has two solutions. You can swap the first two moves.

No!

1.f7+ Kf8 2.Re1 Nxe1 3.Rxe1 and guess what.


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That Knight that was tied down to defending g7 is not tied down to defending g7 anymore.

3...Nxh4!

Hits the Queen, the e1 Rook is now hanging things have gone to pot.

In the actual game when the g1 Rook takes on e1 the pawn is still on f6 so the f5 Knight cannot play Nxh4. The move order is very important.

I did not see it till I stuck it my pgn thingy to play over the game and my solution. (If I had not done that I'd still be thinking I got it.)

I see some other lad thought the same as me. Too quick, far too much confidence in our ability, we did not double checked and no 'twinge' (the wee gut feeling thing that happens) to say we might be wrong.

He says 'Hope no surprises there.'. A wee bit of doubt there - he got the 'twinge' but ignored it. He's in for a surprise.

Never ignore the 'twinge' (if you get it.)

Now off for a stroll about the office to see who else I can blame for not getting today's puzzle.

There is a weedy guy in despatch who I enjoy bullying. Think I'll pop down there and put all his envelopes in the wrong pigeon holes.

May-13-15
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  gawain: Did not get this one.

The solution is in keeping with this week's theme of subtlety.

May-13-15
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May-13-15
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May-13-15
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  kevin86: chase the queen away and jump right in to the opponent's king.
May-13-15
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  Tiggler: <patzer2> After 24. ..Ne7 white draws with 25. Raf1 Qd4 26. Be6+.

After 23. ..Qf6 24. Qh5 also leads by force to a three-fold repetition.

So white was never in a losing position, though some of these lines are hard to find OTB.

19. Rxf4 was an improvement for white.

All these variations were found with assistance of Houdini 1.5a (the free one).

May-13-15
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  thegoodanarchist: Hardest Wednesday ever!
May-13-15
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  Penguincw: Man, I kept contemplating ways of how 29.Qxg7+, 29.f7+ or 29.Qxh6 would work...
May-13-15  Marmot PFL: This was very hard. Playing f7+ first spoils it all but that's probably what I would do.
May-13-15
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  morfishine: <Sally Simpson> Enjoyable and valuable post! I first "fiddled" around with 29.f7+ before moving on (realizing, as you noted, 29.f7+ activates the Black Knight). I only found <29.Re1> once I realized the White Bishop covered <e1>

*****

May-13-15
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  Sally Simpson: Hi Morfishine,

Monday, Tuesday & Wednesday are usually a stroll in the park to solve.

I got tripped up by a day of the week!

May-13-15  dgm1214: Indeed!
Apr-19-17  Rafaelvleite: Brilliant
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