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Michael Dougherty vs Lawrence Day
Ontario (1997), rd 7
Indian Game: General (A45)  ·  1-0



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Mar-21-07  Marmot PFL: 14.Nxc7 Qc8 15.Nxa8 Qxc6 traps the knight and attacks g2. However 14.Bxe7 looks good too and is probably what I would have played. 14.Qf3 is more elegant and restrains blacks counterplay.
Mar-21-07  tacite: <Marmot PFL: Easy position once you learn to think in Canadian, eh?> You mean once you learn canadian politic ;-)
Mar-21-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <gnixon: What about 14. Nxc7, netting the exchange and two pawns?>

What is the line from the puzzle position to your proposed move 14?

Mar-21-07  YouRang: I pretty much got it. I saw that a white knight at c6 was very damaging to black's confined back rank, and that it was being stopped by the b7 bishop. I also saw that this bishop could be attacked/deflected by 10. Ba6!

The fly in the ointment was 10...Nd6, which guards the bishop and gives the black queen an 'escape' square. But getting the knight on c6 is still strong, and so 11. Bxb7 Nxb7 12. Nc6! [threatening Q] Qe8 13. Nxd5, and black seems helpless against 14. Nxc7 [winning the exchange and retaining the initiative].

At this point, both sides made moves that I didn't understand, and I thought white didn't do as well as he could have -- but he did manage to get a winning position anyway.

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  Phony Benoni: <WickedPawn> If you think a player keeping all his pawns on move 30 is unusual, try this game: Von Gottschall vs Tarrasch, 1888

White has all his pawns until move 71, and Black doesn't lose one until move 96!

Mar-21-07  vesivialvy93: Missed it completely ! if i don't feel there is a forced line at first sight i am in deep trouble almost all the time i the only one in that case here ???
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  kevin86: If you want a real pawn circus-see Judit Polgar vs Bacrot-1999. Black had eight pawns on eight files-connected in one long chain.

I didn't see this puzzle-if there was one. White was able to hem in and harass the black queen,but I don't see much else. Oh,yeah,the knights hopped around like grasshoppers on a stove.

Mar-21-07  JustAFish: <the Puzzle And Today's Problem Are Trivial = PATPAT>

Most excellent interpretation of the acronym. I'm going to think of it as such. Thanks!

Mar-21-07  JustAFish: <NOPAT-5m: Not Obvious; Puzzle Ain't Trivial.> Love it!

Okay, so we have:

PATPAT = Puzzle and today's problem are Trivial

NOPAT = Not Obvious, Puzzle Ain't Trivial

and, how about,

PATBIFFIO = Puzzle Ain't Trivial But I Finally Figured It Out

Mar-21-07  kolobok: well i did not solve it looked like a Sunday puzzle to me :)
Mar-21-07  MostlyAverageJoe: This is the second puzzle within last 7 days, where the game developing from the puzzle position includes a clearly bad move on the part of the losing side, and, therefore, the line in the game is NOT the solution. Here's my proposed designation:

PAGBUB - Puzzle And Game Both Utterly Blundered

Mar-21-07  ajile: I got it. Same points as what YouRang said.


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  playground player: White to play and win in 22 moves??? OK, I saw the deflecting move, Ba6, right away; and White has an easy game if Black plays Bxa6, allowing White to play Nxd5. But of course Black doesn't do that! So I went on to something else, and found Bg4 pretty productive.
Mar-21-07  MasterSavely: I didn't see the reflecting move (Ba6) at all... but i stil didn't understand why that move cause black to lose like 20 moves later.
Mar-21-07  TommyC: <playground player> this puzzle is too hard for you. After 10. Ba6 Bxa6, 11. Nc6 is the winning move, not the 11. Nxd5 you suggested.

I thought it was a good puzzle and enjoyed solving it. A simple but inobvious and surprising shot from an apparently quite placid position - easy to miss in a game, for sure.

Mar-21-07  Amarande: Dang, I didn't see it ...

I saw Black's not so mobile looking King's wing and the first thing that came to mind was something involving h4, h5 (possibly including g4) ... I didn't even think to check the Queenside at all ...

Mar-21-07  Dr.Lecter: This kind of positional move was truly hard to see. Good puzzle, though.
Mar-21-07  simsan: <vesivialvy93> I totally agree. I was totally bewildered by this puzzle. 100% NOPAT for me.

I spent quite a bit of time on this.

I think that I considered almost every single allowable white move except for Ba6. It just didn't occur to me that this would make any sense.

Even after I saw that this was the solution, I took a little time until I saw why taking the bishop would be foolish.

A sad puzzle day for me. Good play by white.

Mar-21-07  ClassZPlaya: <dzechiel> and <nuwanda> I still think 10. ... Nxe5 is better than the game continuation and that the position after 16. Nc6 in <nuwanda>'s sample line is unclear.
Mar-21-07  babakova: I got this one... I struggled for quite a while with the variation 1.Ba6 Nxe5 2.Bxb7 Rb8 3.Nxd5 f6 and I couldnt see how white could make any real progress.. then I realized that 3.dxe5 is much stronger and that white can start piling on e7 again from d5.
Mar-21-07  aazqua: Great puzzle and an absolutely smashing move. Well done!
Mar-21-07  centercounter: Such injustice... White has poor Pawn structure, is uncastled, and is behind in development. The TD should have stepped in. :P
Mar-22-07  avidfan: Continuing the theme, 10.Ba6 aims to <deflect> Black's Bishop from guarding c6 where his queen is harassed by White's knight threatening a royal fork at e7 if Black's queen goes to c8. (Early tactics in the opening)
Mar-22-07  nuwanda: hi <ClassZPlaya>, you really think the position after 16.Nc6 is unclear ? White is a pawn up, can easily occupy the open d-file, Black has a bad rook at b7, a bad knight at e8...

I have only the look on the screen, no board, no compi, so i easily may miss something, but...

Mar-22-07  ClassZPlaya: <nuwanda> I agree that what has a large advantage in the line, possibly winning. What I should have stated was that, in my opinion, White is not clearly winning in that line. I thought 10. Ba6 is a good move, but usually in the puzzles we find a winning (or saving) line of play. I am not convinced that after 10. Ba6 that White is winning. Well ahead, yes; winning, not necessarily.
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