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Jan-23-20
 | | Jimfromprovidence: <al wazir> <I chose 26. Qc3. That works even better.> It has to be 26 Qc2, so as to avoid 26...Qxh2.
click for larger view Best for white seems to be 27.Qxc7, after which black has 27... Qxg1+ (now there is no more mate in one threat) 28.Kc2 Qf2+ 29.Kc3 Qxf6, winning for black. 
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Jan-23-20
| | Jimfromprovidence: <areknames> was a bit ahead of me, I see. I thought after 26 Qc2 black might play 26...Qxf6, seeing 27 Qxc7 Rf8, keeping two pawns for a piece. 
click for larger viewNow after 28 Nd7, black might try to surprise with 28...Qd8. White seems ok, though, after 29 Qd6. 
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| Jan-23-20 | | areknames: <Now after 28 Nd7, black might try to surprise with 28...Qd8. White seems ok, though, after 29 Qd6.> 29.Qc3+ is possibly even stronger but both moves should win easily. |
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| Jan-23-20 | | WorstPlayerEver: I didn't get it, but to work out <Jim's> line: 26... Qxf6 27. Qxc7 Rf8 28. Nd7 Qd8 29. Qc3+ d4 30. Qc5 Rg8 31. Qxd4+ f6 32. Rxg8+ Qxg8 33. Nxf6 
click for larger viewVery nice puzzle :) |
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| Jan-23-20 | | kungfufighter888: Difficult puzzle. |
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| Jan-23-20 | | WorstPlayerEver: <areknames>
Yes, even 26. Qc2 Qxf6 27. Qxc7 Rf8 28. Qd6 is winning: 
click for larger viewBut it's complicated. |
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| Jan-23-20 | | Walter Glattke: Attacking Rc7 decides: A) 26.-Rac8 27.Nxf7+ Rxf7 28.Qxc8+ Rf8 29.Qxf8# B) 26.-Qh5 27.Qxc7 Rf8 28.Qe7 Qh6 29.Nxf7+ Rxf7 30.Qxf7 Qg6 31.Qf8+ Qg8 32./Q(R)xg8#
C) 26.-Qxf6 27.Qxc7 Rf8 28.Nd7 Qd4 29.Qg3 Rc8 30.Ne5 Qxd3 31.Nxd3 mating |
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| Jan-23-20 | | malt: Had 26.Qc2 Q:f6 27.Q:c7 Rf8
(27...Rg8 28.R:g8+ K:g8 29.Qg2+ )
28.Nd7 Qf2 29.Rc1 Ra8 30.Qe5+ f6 31.N:f6 |
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| Jan-23-20 | | cocker: Black held the advantage until 25 … Qh4?? |
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| Jan-23-20 | | tigreton: Don't forget that 26. Qc2 also allows
26 ... Qd4 27. Qg2! with mate. Another reason to keep the queen on the second rank. |
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Jan-23-20
 | | Oxspawn: Saric seems to be playing in the Gibraltar Masters. Hope he does something equally spectacular. |
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| Jan-23-20 | | areknames: <Don't forget that 26. Qc2 also allows
26 ... Qd4 27. Qg2! with mate.> It's not mate as Black can play 27...Qxg1+ but yes, it's another finesse of the position, well spotted <tigreton>!. After 28.Qxg1 Rg8 White can play the sadistic 29.Qc5 and will win comfortably. |
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Jan-23-20
 | | agb2002: White has a knight for a rook and a pawn.
Black threatens Qxf6.
The rook on c7 prevents Nxf7# but is defenseless. This suggests 26.Qc2 (26.Qc3 Qf2): A) 26... Rac8 27.Nxf7+ Rxf7 28.Qxc8+ Rf8 29.Qxf8#. B) 26... Qxf6 27.Qxc7 Rf8 28.a3, with a knight for two pawns and the idea Rg3-Rf3, seems to win. C) 26... Qd4 27.Qg2 Qxg1+ (due to Qg7#) 28.Qxg1 wins decisive material. |
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| Jan-23-20 | | TheaN: For a while I was tunnel-visioning something on the g-file. In fact, White may get somewhere if the rook goes first with the queen behind, but the biggest issue is Qxf6 and the advantage is gone. Then my focus, in my eyes in futility, swapped to the queenside and all of a sudden I saw that Rc7 is chained to f7. For a split moment, <c2 or c3?> until I realized that you don't want to allow Qxh2, so <26.Qc2 +-> and the rook on c7 falls. Any rook move on the c-file allows 27.Nxf7#, any 7th rank move allows P/NxR +-, 26....Rac8 fails on 27.Nxf7+! +- due to the x-ray. Perhaps Black's best is just to ignore it with 26....Qxf6 27.Qxc7 Rf8 going down a piece for two pawns, but the problem is that Black's snared. As proof of principle: 28.d4?! +-. |
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Jan-23-20
 | | chrisowen: Chameleon hmm. |
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| Jan-23-20 | | saturn2: Saw that 26. Qc2 costs black the rook.
26...Qxf6 27. Qxc7 Rf8 28. Nd7 Qe7 29. Qc3+ f6 3-
0. Nc5 with advantage. |
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Jan-23-20
| | chrisowen: My bad rebus deal with it. |
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| Jan-23-20 | | saturn2: <Jimfromprovidence It has to be 26 Qc2 , so as to avoid 26...Qxh2. > White can try after 26 Qc3 Qxh2 <27 Rg7> and he seems good. For example 27..Qh1+ 28. Kc2 Qh2+
29. Kb3 |
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Jan-23-20
| | chrisowen: So <saturn2> you're like Lweis Capaldi ard times? |
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| Jan-23-20 | | saturn2: 27. Rg7 Qh1+ 28. Kc2 Rxc3+ 29. bxc3 Qh2+
30. Kb3
I already now it is not working |
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Jan-23-20
| | chrisowen: Um private rod? |
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Jan-23-20
| | chrisowen: Ie ogle rg5 this time? |
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| Jan-23-20 | | RandomVisitor: After 25...b5 black is somehow even
click for larger viewStockfish_20011312_x64_modern:
56/50 05:29 0.00 26.Qf4 Rb7 27.a3 a5 28.Ka2 a4 29.Nc6 e5 30.Qg3 Qh6 31.Ne7 Rxe7 32.fxe7 Qf6 33.Re1 Qxe7 34.Rxe5 Qf6 35.Qe3 h6 36.Rxd5 Rb8 37.Qe4 Kg7 38.Rc5 Rb6 39.Kb1 Qg6 40.Qd4+ Kh7 41.h4 Rd6 42.Rd5 Rxd5 43.Qxd5 Kg7 44.Qxb5 Qg4 45.h5 f5 46.Qd7+ Kf6 47.Qd8+ Kf7 48.Qc7+ Kg8 49.Qc4+ Kg7 50.Qc7+ |
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| Jan-23-20 | | RandomVisitor: After 24.Re1 is black winning?
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<47/88 26:54 -3.22 24. ... h6> 25.a3 a5 26.Ka2 b5 27.h4 b4 28.axb4 axb4+ 29.Kb3 Rg8 30.Qc2 Ra7 31.Qc5 Rb7 32.Qc6 Rbb8 33.Qc2 Ra8 34.Qd1 Qxd1+ 35.Rxd1 Ra7 36.Kxb4 Rc8 37.b3 Rb7+ 38.Ka3 Ra8+ 39.Kb2 d4 40.Nc6 Rg8 41.Nxd4 Rg4 42.Nf3 Rf4 43.Ne5 Rxf6 44.Kc3 Rf4 45.Rh1 Kg7 46.Nc4 Rb5 47.b4 Kf8 48.h5 Kg7 49.Rb1 Rf3 50.Nd2 Rh3 51.Kc4 Rb8 52.Nb3 Rxh5 53.Nc5 Rh4+ 54.d4 h5 55.b5 Rd8 56.b6 Rhxd4+ 57.Kb5 47/81 26:54 -1.08 24. ... Rf8 25.a4 Rac8 26.Qb4 Qg5 27.Ka2 Rce8 28.Qd4 h6 29.Re3 Kh7 30.Rh3 Qxf6 31.Qe3 d4 32.Qxd4 Qg5 33.Rg3 Rd8 34.Nd7 Qd5+ 35.Qxd5 exd5 36.Nxf8+ Rxf8 37.Kb3 Rc8 38.a5 f5 39.Rg1 f4 40.Kb4 Rc2 41.Rf1 Rxb2+ 42.Kc5 Ra2 43.Kxd5 Rxa5+ 44.Ke6 Ra6+ 45.Ke5 b5 46.d4 Kg6 47.d5 Ra4 48.Rf3 Kf7 49.Rh3 b4 50.Rxh6 b3 51.Rh7+ Kg6 52.Rb7 f3 53.Rxb3 f2 54.Rg3+ Kf7 |
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Jan-23-20
| | boringplayer: I actually got this one! |
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