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|Oct-20-13|| ||diagonalley: i got nowhere near this one, but i didn't like 23. K-N1 ... maybe white should have played 23. P-R3 to hold off the attack(?)|
|Oct-20-13|| ||Once: Cough, cough...
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|Oct-20-13|| ||radtop: Black made his attack with one pawn while white tried to move three. Black won the race.|
|Oct-20-13|| ||agb2002: Black has a knight for a pawn.
White threatens 26.fxe5.
The prosaic 25... Nxd3 or 25... Nf3 lose to 26.Qh8+ Bxh8 27.Rxh8#.
However, the latter suggests 25... Qa4+ 26.Kb1 Qxd1+ 27.Rxd1 Nf3
A) 28.Qh3 Nxd4 29.f5 Bc8 and Black seems to stop the attack while keeping some material advantage.
B) 28.Qh1 Nxd4 29.f5 Nxf5 30.Bxf5 gxf5 31.Nxf5 Be5 32.Qh6 Bc8 looks unclear.
C) 28.Bxg7 Nxh2 29.Bc3 Nb3 30.Rh1 Kf8 31.Rxh2 Re3 wins material.
I don't have time to go deeper.
|Oct-20-13|| ||morfishine: When I opened the homepage, instead of going straight to the POTD, I was lured to "Recent Kibitzing" and specifically to the game B Shipov vs Nezhmetdinov, mainly since I have a real weakness for Nezhmetdinov games. After enjoying this game and "Saving to Favorites", I returned to the POTD, which began to look suspiciously familiar. I groaned when I realized I had just gone over the entire game of the current POTD. |
And worse, I still didn't get the correct move order :(
Nezhmetdinov games have a way of doing that
|Oct-20-13|| ||gofer: The combination of Qh7+ Kf1 Qxg7+/# is looming large for white. But
I think taking on either e5 or playing Qh7 is premature. I think we
need to soften up black just a little more...
Now I come to type in the move 25 f5 and realise that it is BLACK to play.
Well at least I know what I cannot do as black which is move Ne5!
But can I attack??? The queen attack seems a great defence, but I
wouldn't call it an attack! But there is one shining beacon in this
sacrifice I am already a knight up!
25 ... Qa4+
26 Kb1 Qxd1+!!??
27 Rxd1 Nf3
28 Qf2 Nxd4
Okay. The exchange ends up being Q for R+B+N. So not a bad exchange
in most people's minds. Perhaps black has enough to win...
Time to check...
Well at least my drivel is in good company. Pity it is completely
wrong. I should have realised that if white's only good move is f5
then black has more than enough time to launch his own attack and
doesn't have to needlessly give up the queen.
|Oct-20-13|| ||Kikoman: Beautiful finished by Nezhmetdinov. :D|
|Oct-20-13|| ||Al2009: @gofer
I totally agree with you.
I was watching the position, and then I realized that Black was already a piece up.
So, 25...Qa4+ followed by Qxd1 and Nf3, gives Black almost an equal material, (he was 1 pawn less), and very good chances.
|Oct-20-13|| ||Penguincw: I guess 25...Qa4+.|
|Oct-20-13|| ||Patriot: I like 25...Bxd5 although I'm sure there is more to this than I envisioned. Certainly not 25...Nxd3 or 25...Nf3 since that is met swiftly with 26.Qh8+ Bxh8 27.Rxh8#. Black would love to hold on to his extra piece somehow but it doesn't happen there.|
25...Bxd5 (attacks h1 and attempts to pry open the c-file)
26.Qh7+ Kf8 27.Nf5 gxf5 28.Bxf5 Qa4+ 29.Kb1 Bxh1 30.Bc2 Qxc4 etc.
26.Qh7+ Kf8 27.Bxe5 dxe5 28.cxd5 Qa4+ 29.Kb1 Rac8 looks winning for black.
26.cxd5 Qa4+ 27.Kb1 Rac8 28.Bc3 Rxc3 29.bxc3 Rb8+ looks winning for black.
26.cxd5 Qa4+ 27.Kb1 Rac8 28.Bc2 Rxc2 29.Qxc2 Nb3 looks winning for black.
There is much more to this than I have time for!
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|Oct-20-13|| ||inmate5: Nice, Once! Congratulations!|
|Oct-20-13|| ||vasja: PLEASE HELP!
Since I reloaded new Java version I am not able to view the games in PGN view "chess viewer deluxe" due to my "security settings". Reloading Java did not help. I am using XP operating system. What must I do?
|Oct-20-13|| ||JimmyRockHound: Maybe, like Once, Chris Owen could also publish a compilation of his... 'creative' chess stories....|
|Oct-20-13|| ||morfishine: <vasja> Due to the Java problem, you must use the pgn4web|
|Oct-20-13|| ||devere: <Al2009: "So, 25...Qa4+ followed by Qxd1 and Nf3, gives Black almost an equal material, (he was 1 pawn less), and very good chances. Why not?">|
Unfortunately the clever Queen sacrifice kills Black's mating attack without doing the same to White's. Black will soon get slaughtered.
As things stand Black is a move ahead of White with his attack, and Bxd5, Nxc4, and Qa4+ all work. One possible line goes 25...Qa4+ 26. Kb1 Bxd5 27.Bxe5 Bxh1 28.Rxh1 dxe5 29.f5 Rab8 30.f6 Bh6 31.Qxh6 Rxb2+ 32.Kxb2 Nxc4+ 33.Bxc4 Rb8+ 34.Kc3 Qa3+ 35.Bb3 Rxb3+ 36.Kc4 Rc3+ 37.Kd5 Qc5+ 38.Ke4 Qd4#.
"Insane" is quite correct for this one!
|Oct-20-13|| ||scormus: Great news <Once>, well done! it's on my Christmas wish list already.|
My attempt at getting this puzzle was not so great. I was one of those who tried to make something out of ... Qa4+ and ... Bxd5
|Oct-20-13|| ||Patriot: <scormus> Well it looks like you chose 2/3 of the winning moves! :-) As <devere> points out, Bxd5, Nxc4, and Qa4+ are all winning.|
|Oct-20-13|| ||scormus: <Patriot:> amazingly my engine also gives ... Qa4 26 Kb1 Bxd5 27 cxd5 Nb3 as OK. Perhaps I just need a bit more self-belief .... or maybe a better engine ;)|
|Oct-20-13|| ||devere: <scormus: <Patriot:> amazingly my engine also gives ... Qa4 26 Kb1 Bxd5 27 cxd5 Nb3 as OK. Perhaps I just need a bit more self-belief .... or maybe a better engine ;)>|
It's just Nezhmetdinov! He's the guy who taught Tal how to attack, and his complexity level is often off the charts.
Here's what he did to his most famous protege:
Nezhmetdinov vs Tal, 1961
Tal said that losing that game was the happiest day of his life, because of the beauty of the game. Tal and Nehz were close friends, and Tal was a high-class sportsman.
|Oct-20-13|| ||scormus: <devere .... Nezh vs Tal> Ansolutely!! A privilege to be able to play over such a game.|
|Oct-20-13|| ||morfishine: <Patriot> & <Scormus> 25...Bxd5 was what I was leaning to when I thought "Hold it, I just went over this game about 5 minutes ago" |
Thats when I realized I had accidentally gone over the whole game before trying to solve the POTD, and still goofed up the move-order
Blame it on Nezhmetdinov
|Oct-20-13|| ||Cemoblanca: Great game by the 'Grande Maestro'. :]|
|Oct-20-13|| ||Patriot: <morf> Yeah I thought Bxd5 seemed very logical. And Houdini rates it just as good as the game move. You probably would have figured it out had you not gone over it before.|
|Oct-20-13|| ||morfishine: <Patriot> Well, thats a relief. Still, I can't help feeling chagrin at not being able to follow Black's line after already seeing the game :(|
Good to hear from you!
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