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HIARCS (Computer) vs Homer (Computer)
"D'oh!" (game of the day Aug-02-2007)
CCT9 (2007), Internet Chess Club, Feb-17
English Opening: Symmetrical. Anti-Benoni Variation Spielmann Defense (A33)  ·  1-0

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Aug-02-07  underdoggum: wasn't there a "homer" earlier this year with a "d'oh"?
Aug-02-07
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Granted, Homer was the name of a rather fair poet of olden times, nonetheless, I'm not certain it's the best name for a computer nowadays.
Aug-02-07  underdoggum: to chessgames: great show of support for the Simpsons Movie :)
Aug-02-07  patzerboy: To me there is something sterile about a game between two computers, no matter how deep the moves are.

With human players one can marvel when one of them comes up with something profound. When a computer does it, it's just not particularly thrilling because the moves ARE THERE. It's the FINDING which is the challenge. A computer simply crunches away without imagination or positional feel weighing one evaluation against another until it has reached whatever criteria the programmers have set.

At most, I can feel admiration for the cleverness of the programmers, but it gives me no visceral satisfaction the way a great, even if flawed, fight between two human players can do.

I've read that they have just recently "solved" checkers with a computer. Oh, well. I never cared for checkers, anyway.

Aug-02-07  RobertJamesFischer: To much duff for homer.
Aug-02-07  ycsidney: don't forget computers are inventions of men. They are to assist hastening solving problems and at the same time evaluate men's performances and achievements. We are all enjoying the facilities provided!
Aug-02-07  Balaurul: What is with this computer games, nobody enjoys them ...
Aug-02-07  Toastman: so on 50 would f6 have saved poor homer? White has to either sacrifice the B or swap his R for blacks B leaving the passed pawn in either case.
Aug-02-07  lentil: Don't mean to quibble, but I think this should be labeled a Sicilian Maroczy Bind.
Aug-02-07  RandomVisitor: <toastman>after 50...f6 51.Ba3+ Bf7+ 52.Rxf7+ Kxf7 53.Kxh6 white will win the f6 pawn (and then the g5 pawn) because he can get the oppposition.
Aug-02-07  Belezky: Homer playing chess?
It could be Lisa Simpson... Or Bart /no... Bart also not/. But, Homer???

Also, in an episode called "Lisa's Date With Density", Prof. Frink was playing a chess game against one of his robots. A phrase from there:
"No, pawns can't move that way, you stupid arm."

Aug-02-07
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  whiteshark: <Belezky: <Homer playing chess? >> Inconceivable ! Have a look: http://humorne.misto.cz/_MAIL_/obra...
Aug-02-07
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  keypusher: Sing to me, mouse, of the game of twists and turns...
Aug-02-07  ruelas007: very fun pun no?
Aug-02-07
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  kevin86: I think there was a computer called the "Lisa". As for BART,that's the rapid transit system in the San Francisco area.

Maybe Barry Bonds ought to go out and get a "HOMER"-but then again,he hasn't been able to buy one lately-lol.

Crazy game-black lost his last hope,the a-pawn-to zugzwang.

Aug-02-07  MikeChesss: Why did one computer resign? Isn't it programmed to keep on playing?

On another topic, has anyone had trouble signing on to the free internet chess server recently? I haven't been able to get on in two days.

Aug-02-07  Crowaholic: <kevin86: I think there was a computer called the "Lisa".>

Yes, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_....

<kevin86: Crazy game-black lost his last hope,the a-pawn-to zugzwang.>

50. ..Kh8 51. Kxh6 f5 52. Ra8+ Bg8 53. Bf6#

But why not 50. ..f6 ? Now White is threatened with ..Bf6# and the best things I see for White are either to exchange the bishop vs. 2 pawns via

51. Bxf6++ Kxf6 52. Kxh6

or the rook against bishop and pawn

51. Bb4+ Bf7+ 52. Rxf7+ Kxf7 53. Kxh6

Still an easy win for White in both lines, though.

Aug-02-07
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  ganstaman: <MikeChesss: Why did one computer resign? Isn't it programmed to keep on playing?>

Well, obviously not. Or the operators of the computer looked at the evaluation and gave the position a quick look over and realized it was pointless.

<On another topic, has anyone had trouble signing on to the free internet chess server recently? I haven't been able to get on in two days.>

I've heard a lot of people saying this in recent days, so they're probably having some trouble.

Aug-02-07
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  ganstaman: When you look at art, you don't know what the artist was actually thinking. All you know is what feelings you can interpret from looking at it yourself. Chess, as an art, is the same. Without knowing the names of the players, you don't know the circumstances or what was actually going through their minds, but when you go over the moves you can interpret feelings from them and admire the game.

Games between computers are no different -- moves are moves. If you didn't know computers were playing this game, would you have been able to tell? Couldn't you have injected feelings into it all?

Take a look at this: http://www.soban-art.com/images/ga2... (some other artwork in the various galleries here, some much better than others: http://www.soban-art.com/galery25.asp). If you didn't know that a computer generated that image, would you have been able to tell? Now that you do know, does it really matter?

Aug-02-07  soberknight: Black's defensive setup is more reminiscent of Sonic the Hedgehog than the Simpsons.
Aug-02-07
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  mahmoudkubba: what does the single phrase word <"D'oh!"> means?
Aug-02-07  patzerboy: "If you didn't know computers were playing this game, would you have been able to tell?"

That's a reasonable point.

Unfortunately, I already knew they were computers when I looked at the game.

So don't tell me beforehand. Disillusion me afterward.

Aug-02-07  Crowaholic: <mahmoudkubba: what does the single phrase word "D'oh!" means?>

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/d%27oh

Aug-02-07  Chessmensch: There was strange play in this game. It didn't look like something by highly rated human players. Hard to find words for it--kind of mechanical and lacking creativity.
Aug-02-07  Sboldm7: Perhaps there are those that have never seen "The Simpsons." the word "d'oh" is Homer Simpson's catchall phrase every time he does something Simpsonesque.
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