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Joop van Oosterom vs Gert Jan Timmerman
"The World is my Ooster" (game of the day Mar-12-2011)
NBC Millennium Email (1999) (correspondence), NBC Email, Nov-03
King's Indian Defense: Orthodox Variation. Bayonet Attack (E97)  ·  1-0

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Aug-02-07  whatthefat: This game is analyzed in my profile, see Game 3 at User: whatthefat
Mar-10-08  soberknight: The queen sacrifice on e4 is really cool but totally unnecessary: it comes to an even trade. Still, I like "cool" trades. 19...Nh3+ is also cool. I assume Black was planning 20...Nxf3+ if White took on h3, to win a rook and two pawns for the pair of knights, plus the positional advantage of busting White's kingside.
Mar-12-11
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  al wazir: 19. g3 Nh3+ 20. Kg2. Now what? If 20...Qd8/Qe7, then 21. Nxc7 Qxc7 22. Bxd6 Qf7 23. Bxf8, with two connected central passed ♙s.
Mar-12-11  scormus: <soberknight ...I assume Black was planning 20...Nxf3+>

You could be right. Nice looking play by B but he gives up his 2 most active pieces and disippates his attack for no long term gain. I wonder if he miscalculated W's defense

Mar-12-11
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  Once: Now that's an epic King's Indian. Black attacks on the kingside, throwing everything he has got at the white king. Meanwhile, white's plan is to attack on the queenside, achieve a breakthrough there, then turn 90 degrees to the right to harass the black king.

Some days, the black kingside attack wins, usually because it is more direct to attack the enemy king than it is to attack an "empty" wing.

Some days the white queenside attack wins. White argues that he has more space in the centre because he kicked off with d4 and c4, and so his queenside attack has more momentum. Even if there isn't a black king hiding in the queenside to take potshots at.

Who is right? White or black? Maybe one day Even Deeper Blue or Rybka 17 will solve it one way or another. And then we will know for certain that the black kingside attack wins by force, or the white queenside push is the best way to go.

Until that day - which will not be a very happy day in many respects - this will continue to be a maddening, inexplicable, mysterious conundrum. Today and in this game, white won, but tomorrow...?

Mar-12-11
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  Penguincw: Oooh.Black can't stop the promotion.
Mar-12-11  Jim Bartle: What are those ratings, 2684 and 2738? Correspondence?
Mar-12-11  dumbgai: Very complicated, great game.
Mar-12-11
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  kevin86: Could black have resigned too early? It seems to me that the 2 advanced pawns can hold the game vs the rook. Am I wrong?
Mar-12-11  dumbgai: <kevin86> Nah, the white king is too well positioned. Eventually both pawns would fall.
Mar-12-11  Funicular: There are many ways in which white can win one of the pawns. The other one will just not matter after that. No way it's a draw. Black can't even threaten mate
Mar-12-11
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  HeMateMe: "Oost--I did it Again!"
Mar-12-11  KingV93: I play the Kings Indian (try to anyway) frequently and here I don't like 9...a5 or 10...b6 where Black wastes tempi he cannot afford against the bayonet attack from White. I think Black should continue in traditional Kings Indian fashion and play on the Kingside with 9...Nd7 and 10...f5.
Mar-12-11  scormus: <KingV93 ... Black wastes tempi > I agree. Lines like this are very knife edge, a single tempo can make the difference between win or loss. If you going to attack, attack like hell and dont look back. Way to go Nd7, f5, f4, g5 etc.

In other words "he who hesitates is lost"

Mar-12-11  Pantagruel: This is the stupidest pun yet.
Mar-12-11  picard: how about 19 ...Rf5 for black, with the idea of moving it to g5 or h5. just seems like black has a great position here and he wastes it with the queen and knight trade. if Rf5 doesnt work im sure some sort of sacrifice would work there.
Mar-12-11  picard: 19... Rf5
20 Nxc7 Rh5
21 h3 Bxh3
22 gxf3 Rf8
and black is in great shape
Mar-13-11  sevenseaman: 20...Qxe4? Black thinking the N forking the White Q later is compensation enough is comical. He had little going to decide even on simplification.
Mar-13-11  picard: never mind, if 19 Rf5 its 20 g3 That would stop all attacks. if white plays 20 Nxc7 or 20 Nxd4 he is in trouble but g3 stops it all.
Mar-14-11  KingV93: <scormus> I've studied the Kings Indian a bit and the bayonet in particular. The author (Joe Gallagher in this case) describes the opening as a race between Blacks' plan on the Kingside and Whites' on the Queenside. The winner usually being the player that most effectively ignores the opponents play and continues with his own, conceding to prophylactic or defensive moves only when they also are useful in the attack. He is an avid proponent of the opening from the Black side as the prize in question is the White Kings' scalp as opposed to a disassembled Black Queenside with some extra material (though White can end up with an extra Queen which is not insignificant!)
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