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Magnus Carlsen vs Yannick Pelletier
Biel Chess Festival (2007), Biel SUI, rd 7, Jul-31
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Classical Variation. Keres Defense (E32)  ·  0-1

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Jul-31-07  notyetagm: <flamboyant: great game from the best Canadian player>

LOL. Pelletier is <Swiss>.

Jul-31-07  djmercury: Can't really understand 21. Ne4, what about Nb5?
Jul-31-07  lonepsycho: 10. ♘e2!? seems to be a highly speculative move in the classical Nimzo-Indian. ChessBase only lists five games that contain the move. In 2001, GM Kacheishvili defeated Carlsen with this same novelty: G Kacheishvili vs Carlsen, 2001; perhaps this was his inspiration to incorporate the move into his repertoire!
Jul-31-07  patzer2: After 16. Bxh7??, Black traps the errant Bishop with 16...f5!
Jul-31-07  capatal: Magnus slipped on the Magma in this game. Hopefully, he'll recover quick, fast and in a hurry.
Jul-31-07  k0mi: I simply don't understand Carlsen with a full point lead why does he risk so much?! It had to happen... he had to lose.
Jul-31-07  tal lover: before 16.Bxh7? Carlsen position looks better, but a mistake changes everything
Jul-31-07  wienke7: Sneaky, does this belong in your crazy rook collection, or does it not count since it didnt end up in a stalemate?
Jul-31-07
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  ganso: It's puzzling that Carlsen would play for a small advantage by trading Queens out of the opening and then, a few moves later, go in for the more than risky Bishop sac.
Jul-31-07  dycotiles: I love this boy's spirit. He simply wants to win every game. 16. Bxh7 is not a mistake itself, it was an intentional sacrifice. It didn't work out, but he played it in the spirit of Spassky - Fischer. This was an exciting game. It would be interesting to hear from some serious analysis of whether Bxh7 is really speculative or not. Well done Carlsen!
Jul-31-07  dehanne: <LOL. Pelletier is <Swiss>. >
That explains why Carlsen lost. Carlsen had no chance against the versatility of Pelletier's ubiquitous army knife.
Jul-31-07
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  InspiredByMorphy: Would 32.f5 have offered white better chances?
Jul-31-07  Marmot PFL: 21.Ne4 is probably the losing move. Rxe6 (or maybe Nb5) looks like it should draw.
Jul-31-07  Marmot PFL: <InspiredByMorphy> 32.f5 Rf7 33.Rxd6 Rxd6 34.Rxd6 Rxf5 looks similar to the game.
Aug-01-07  Magnusch: <STALEMATE!> if <41. Rf6+ (Rook on f6 instead of f5 and King on f7 instead of f6)>

Unfortunately this position wasn´t the actual one. But IF! ..

Aug-01-07
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  Troller: Carlsen felt it was fair to hand back the bishop Motylev gave him in round 5. Pelletier was lucky to be the happy recipient.
Aug-01-07
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  Sneaky: <patzer2: After 16. Bxh7??, Black traps the errant Bishop with 16...f5!> Oh come on now, you make it sound like Magnus thought he was winning a pawn for free and didn't see that it would get trapped. He knew exactly what he was getting into, he knew that the bishop would be worth at least two pawns (the one on h7 and the one that he takes desperado-style) and possibly he'd get a third from the other side of the board. On top of all that, he knew that he would have drawing resources if things didn't work out.

I'm not even sure if 16.Bxh7 is a bad move much less a "??" move - it's very very complicated. Magnus obviously thought it had winning chances--that's what I thought too at the time, but obviously it didn't work out.

Aug-02-07  Magnusch: Agree with <Sneaky>. It is not proved that 16. Bxh7 is a (very) bad move simply because White lost the game. I believe some people (the same?) would give that move one (or two) !! IF White won the game.

In a near future (say 93 years from now) we can do a quick Computer Analize of the game and maybe see that 27 % (or more) of the moves was weak (?/??).

Maybe we then will find that White had a forced win SEVEN times AFTER 16. Bxh7. And Black had a forced win in nineteen positions after (and included) 16. Bxh7.

(IMO Bxh7 was probably not good, but where is the proof?)

Aug-04-07  Magnusch: About 16. Bxh7...

Here is from the interview with Magnus Carlsen (from the tournament site):

<You unexpectedly lost twice, against Yannick Pelletier and Loek van Wely.>

<Two disastrous games! I do not want to remember all the miscalculations I made. Later, I even wondered how I could have played so badly. Against Pelletier, it was not a bad idea to sacrifice 16. Bh7. But with my move on 21. Ne4 I made a deadly mistake.>

Aug-04-07  alexandrovm: Magnus blundered earlier in the game...making Yannick task easier...
Aug-04-07  Atking: During the game I was thinking about 16.Rhg1 with 17.g4. Basically Black is already in difficult position here. Same pieces (still white looks a bit more active) but a really bad pawn structure. Of course there is some counter like Bf3 (On g4) or ...a4 with Nc6 Na5 and Nb3 but then what? Bf3 could be trap by Rde1&e4 and Rg3 and Nb3 go nowhere Kc2&Nxa4.
Aug-05-07  scholes: with a simple 21 rxe6 it might have been draw

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Rybkav2.3.2a.w32:

15 -0.49 21.Re1xe6 Nb8c6 22.Rd1xd6 Rd8xd6 23.Re6xd6 Nc6e5 24.Nc3a4 Ne5xc4 25.Rd6d7+ Kh7g6 26.Rd7c7 Nc4d6 27.Na4xc5 a5a4 28.b2b4 a4xb3/ep 29.Nc5xb3 Bg2d5 30.Kc1c2 Ra8xa3 31.Nb3d4 Nd6f5

following the line i get this position at 29 th move
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which looks like a draw , ofcourse there might be improvements but it would had been lot harder for pelletier to win after 21 Rxe6

Aug-06-07  Tamerlan: Ne4 is a disastrous mistake, Carlsen should play Nb5!
Aug-06-07  rover: Since Bxh7 was a practical move I think annotating by result is not so bad here. Of course if Carlsen had played better he would have had good chances for a draw but that's not a great achievment from a slightly better position.
Aug-11-07  Karpova: <slomarko: who is this Sophie Millet?> Sophie Milliet
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