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Magnus Carlsen vs Henrik Carlsen
"How to Beat Your Dad at Chess" (game of the day Aug-31-2009)
Arctic Chess Challenge (2007), Tromso NOR, rd 6, Aug-04
Queen's Gambit Declined: Exchange. Positional Variation (D35)  ·  1-0

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Aug-31-09  returnoftheking: p.s. frogbert I would appreciate it if you don't follow me around answering my every post, like when I spoke to Zarg yesterday or the stuff here. It is rather strange to see you do it when I take your recent complaints into account. Thank you.
Aug-31-09
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  kevin86: Black does regain his rook,but is down the exchange for a pawn-therefore,daddy resigns.
Aug-31-09  returnoftheking: Nuwanda, besides Rf2, Ne4 looks just as strong.
Aug-31-09  tivrfoa: black should have exchanged the queens in 22. 22. ... Rd2 resulted in a bad exchange.
Aug-31-09  Pawnsgambit: <black should have exchanged the queens in 22. 22. ... Rd2 resulted in a bad exchange.> You are right, Looks like his father tried desperately for his son win the game and gain some ELO points. Do not take this father -son games seriously.
Aug-31-09  percyblakeney: <Based on what I have seen of Mr Carlsen sr. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a thrown game>

Your opinion of both Carlsens seems to be equally low...

<Looks like his father tried desperately for his son win the game and gain some ELO points>

22. ... Qxf2+ 23. Rxf2 and white is piece up after picking up the bishop.

Aug-31-09  OneArmedScissor: Henrik should have pulled his king out of the queen position sooner. Look at the mistake he made
Aug-31-09  AnalyzeThis: I thought that Henrik played a good game and gave a good effort.
Aug-31-09  frogbert: <I would appreciate it if you don't follow me around answering my every post>

hum, hum. yeah, me posting on the carlsen page and on the page of game of the day featuring carlsen vs carlsen, henrik being a friend of mine - that is clearly an act of following <you> around... hehe. :o)

[hint: these two pages have something in common, and rotk isn't the first thing i think of. and what do you know - i haven't replied to anything you've posted on the 7 <other> pages you visited yesterday and today. :o)]

Aug-31-09  WhiteRook48: so henrik's magnus's dad?
Aug-31-09  nigelsnoru: <WhiteRook48> Yes. Magnus also has a bunch of sisters...Signe, Ingrid, can't remember the other one? And I think they all play chess, not sure.
Aug-31-09
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  ajk68: It looks like black overlooked 20. f5 where the black bishop is pretty much trapped.

Maybe Henrik would be calculating to move 24 and missed Rf2? But it really looks like black was just trying to complete development and overlooked a threat.

But Henrik had to be throwing this one! He lost to a chump only rated 2710 and on the way up. We might expect him to win one in 40 games, and this should have been the one.

If anything, Magnus played this like most classy stronger players with respect for the other person. He didn't destroy and humiliate him; just let him make small mistakes until everything falls apart. Gave him something to think about.

Aug-31-09  NBZ: Instead of Rxg3, 24. ... Rxf2 25. Kxf2 Rxg3 26. Kxg3 would be an improvement for black over the game.

Normally when an exchange down you want to keep your rook (since the opp's two rooks tend to duplicate each other) but in this case the white rooks on the d and e files end up being very strong while black's rook is stuck on the g-file.

Sep-01-09  tivrfoa: <percyblakeney: 22. ... Qxf2+ 23. Rxf2 and white is piece up after picking up the bishop.> I don't agree.

23. ... Rd3 24. hxg4 Rxg3 or 23. ... Rd3 24. Nce4 Bd1

What you would make different? How can white be a piece up?

Sep-01-09  percyblakeney: <What you would make different? How can white be a piece up?>

The best black can get is a position where he will be at least an exchange down (Shredder evaluates it as +3.5) after 22. ... Qxf2+ 23. Rxf2 Rd3 24. Kh2 Ree3 25. Nf1:


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Sep-01-09  frogbert: <Signe, Ingrid, can't remember the other one? And I think they all play chess, not sure.>

ellen is his older sister and the strongest chess player of the girls. not sure if signe plays, but ingrid does.

Sep-01-09  Blunderdome: I hear <frogbert> once threw a game against Magnus, too ;)
Sep-01-09  frogbert: yeah, poor kid - what was i supposed to do? you can't beat an 11 year old, can you? :o)
Sep-01-09  tivrfoa: <percyblakeney> you're right. thanks for analyze. =)
Jun-12-10  I play the Fred: <Surprisingly it was not enough, my nice pawns on f5 and e4 became weak after f3, and Magnus easily equalised our internal score to 1-1.>

How many players can claim an even lifetime score with Magnus Carlsen? :p

Jun-12-10  micartouse: Wow, his dad held on a lot longer than I would have expected. Good for him.
Jul-04-14  janlavchariv: 22. ... Rd2? bad move.
Sep-01-17
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  Penguincw: Video analysis of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2R....
Sep-01-17  beenthere240: Stockfish thinks 22...Rd2 is the best move, but black's already in a bad spot.
Sep-01-17  Nina Myers: Daddy issues.
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