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Robert Huebner vs Alexandru Sorin Segal
"The Segal Has Landed" (game of the day Sep-18-2022)
WchT U26 fin-A 16th (1969), Dresden GDR, rd 6, Aug-01
Russian Game: Modern Attack. Center Attack (C43)  ·  0-1



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Apr-15-12  agb2002: I missed the possibility 22.Qxg7+ Kxg7 23.Nc3 Qxd3 in my line D.1 but the ending looks lost for White anyway.
Apr-15-12  sevenseaman: Are we always on the look out for a tactical shot. If you think yes, you may have to check again.

Here we have a position (I do not know the opening) where every piece is still on the board.

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Black to play.

How many of us can claim to see a tactical possibility. In a matter of mere 4 moves he goes a piece up.

Can you see how? (It could be enough to win you the game).

Take your time; I spent 20 minutes staring at it before I saw the light and the end of the tunnel. (But then I am naturally a bit slow)

Apr-15-12  Limpin Kt: <sevenseaman> Er, is it 1...Nf3 2.Bf3 Bb2 3.Rb2 Qf6 fork?
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  FSR: I considered the line Segal played, but not his quiet follow-up 21...Qxg3!
Apr-15-12  dragon player: Quite a messy position, but it's sunday, so that's logical. I've got only one plan:

18.cxd3 Rxc1
19.Rxc1 Ne3

Now the threat is Qxf2+.

20.Qf3 Qxb2
21.Qxe3 Bd4

which looks nice. But there are other defences:

20.f3 Qd4

threathening a smothered mate.

Time to check, I'm not interessed in looking for more defences.


I'm a little bit right. Lets say quarter of a point.


Apr-15-12  dzechiel: Black to move (17...?). White is up two pawns. "Insane."

This sure looks like it should start

17...Nxd3 18 cxd3 Rxc1 19 Rxc1

and now I don't know whether I should move the remaining knight off of f6 or play 19...Qxb2.

I wish I had more time today. Time to check.

Apr-15-12  WinKing: The first move seemed to present itself. Take black's most distant piece & capture one of white's only active pieces. The rest is not so easy.

18.cxd3 Ng3! <(19.fxd3 Qxf1# ; the rook on 'f1' can't move or ...Qxf2# ; if 19.Qf3 Qxf3 20.gxf3 Ne2+ 21.Kg2 Nxc1 looks to be winning)>

19.hxg3 Rxc1
20.Rxc1 Qxf2+
21.Kh1 Qxg3 <(threatening mate starting with ...Qh4+)>

22.Qe4 Be5 <(threatens mate on 'h2' so white has to play 23.Qxe5 Qxe5 & black should be winning)>

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I don't know...let's look.

Apr-15-12  WinKing: Rats! I missed white's best defense 22.Qe7. This would have prevented 22...Qh5+ & 22...Be5 both. If 22...Be5 23.Qxe6+ Kg7 24.Qh3 & it is white who is winning. Well I'd give myself .25 of a point for at least finding the right idea. Failing to find a follow up that is winning is a major deduction..
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  Jimfromprovidence: 21...Qe3! (mentioned by many) looks like a clear improvement to the text.

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The additional threats it poses compared to the text move are two-fold; 22...Qh6+, then 23...Bd4# is the first threat and 22...Qxc1+ is the second.

White can't protect himself against these threats so he must give up the queen with 22 Qxg7+. After 22... Kxg7 here is the position.

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Black again has two threats, 23...Qxc1+, or 23...Qxg3, followed by 24...Rf2.

White has to play 23 Nc3, after white will pick up the d pawn and g3 pawns.

Apr-15-12  sevenseaman: <Limpin Kt> You hit the nail on its head. Good, no one else has bothered with it. I thought it was very instructive. (A penny for my thoughts, hun)!
Apr-18-12  LoveThatJoker: Sunday, April 15th, 2012

For the purposes of playing for a direct win, this seemed like the best try

17...Nxd3 18. cxd3 Nd6 19. Qxa7 [19. Qf3 Rxc1 20. Rxc1 (20. Qxf6? Rxf1+ 21. Kxf1 Bxf6 and Black emerges a piece up) 20...Qxb2 and Black will emerge at least a piece up] 19...Rxc1 20. Rxc1 Qxb2 but 21. Nc3! seems to actually leave White slightly better as 21...Bxc3 22. Rab1 and although Black looks to have an attack, White's defenses seem firm enough.

Therefore, I'm going with the equalizing 17...Nxd3 18. cxd3 Rxc1 19. Rxc1 Qxb2 20. Qxb2 Bxb2 21. Nd2 Bxa1 22. Rxa1 Rd8 with an equal-ish position (although Black still has the e6 weakness, yet it is better than being two pawns down as per the start of the puzzle!)


Apr-10-17  Marcelo Bruno: Beautiful game by Segal!
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  perfidious: Black's eighteenth move is straight out of the <'where the hell did <that> come from?> section in works on combination.

Nice work also by <Jim> as so often on pointing out an improvement on the winner's play, elegant though the quiet move actually played was.

Apr-11-17  ChessHigherCat: Soarin' seagull, what a combination!
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  Messiah: 'The Secret Is Not To Check, But To Mate.'
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: Beautiful attack. Almost feels as if Black might have missed a forced mate earlier that would have avoided the long endgame, but probably just my imagination.
Sep-18-22  Saniyat24: Segal has landed/on the bamboo enchanted/a horse ran around/ but a remedy was found/thus soarin' Alex had Bob checkmated...!
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  Teyss: 17...? Was a Sunday puzzle in 2012 and rightfully so, the combination is difficult to see especially Black's 21st move.

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As pointed earlier, Qxg3 wins but the quiet Qe3! is even better.

If White tries 22.Rc4 to protect the h file (22...Rf1+ 23.Kh2 Qh6+ 24.Rh4), the Q comes from the other side: 22...Rf1+ 23.Kh2 Qg1+ 24.Kh3 Qh1+ 25.Kg4 Qh5# If 22.Qe7 as in the game, simply 22...Qxc1+. So White has to give up his Q. Impressive attack.

Oh yes, the pun. Is it just about "seagull" or did I miss something? How about "Hard to Kill" or "Under Siege"? Actually almost any title would do.

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  offramp: Those with good memories will remember that checkmate; it's called a <Good Anarchist> checkmate, administered by a sole queen and a pawn.
Sep-18-22  whiteshark: The story of <the Segal>, and Huebner who taught him to fly...
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  OhioChessFan: <Teyss: Oh yes, the pun. Is it just about "seagull" or did I miss something? How about "Hard to Kill" or "Under Siege"? >

It's a reference to the Apollo 11 mission landing on the moon. Neil Armstrong famously said, "The Eagle has landed."

Sep-18-22  whiteshark: You! never! landed! there!
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  Teyss: <OhioChessFan> Thanks, didn't make the link. Was going to bash the pun for irrelevance but the year the game was played connects the dots. One small pun for Missy, one giant game for Segal.
Sep-18-22  Saniyat24: There is also a nice novel by Jack Higgins with the title, "The Eagle has Landed"...! fascinating story, set during World War II.
Sep-18-22  Cassandro: Yes, <Saniyat>. And later made into an excellent movie with Donald Sutherland and Michael Caine among others.
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