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Vladimir Kramnik vs Peter Svidler
World Championship Tournament (2007), Mexico City MEX, rd 1, Sep-13
Semi-Slav Defense: General (D43)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Sep-14-07  slomarko: <It is not as important for those who have an "aggressive" repertoire with black, but it is important for me with my classical repertoire. For me playing with white and with black is a big difference.> since Kramnik has a crappy repertoire with black i think FIDE should decide he plays all his games with white.
Sep-14-07  ahmadov: <slomarko> Could you not find a better place for Kramnik bashing?
Sep-14-07  Ulhumbrus: Following the pawn sacrifice 19...c5! 20 Nxb5, 20...Ba6!! is the move which gains Black equality at least. I had a look at it with "my little chess partner" during the game. It is not so easy to break the pin and to save the N and to hold on to the pawn as well. On 22 Bd3 c4! 23 Bxc4 Nxc4 24 Qxc4 Qb4 25 Qxb4 axb4 26 Nd6 Bf8 27 Ne4 Bc4 regains one of the pawns with two bishops for two knights. This suggests two things. Firstly, that against Kramnik it is better to mix it up than to face getting strangled. Secondly, more generally, from a psychological point of view, when your opponent wants a comfortable time strangling you, you are advised to deny him a quiet life by mixing it up.
Sep-14-07
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  Mateo: <Ulhumbrus> <On 22 Bd3 c4! 23 Bxc4 Nxc4 24 Qxc4 Qb4 25 Qxb4 axb4 26 Nd6 Bf8 27 Ne4 Bc4 regains one of the pawns with two bishops for two knights.> As after 27.Ne4 Bc4, Black regains one of the pawns, this suggests that 27.Ne4 could be useless. More useful seems 27.d5. Black has to give up his Bishop pair to regain a pawn. Thus, 27.d5 Bxd6 28.exd6 Rxd6. Then, I like the simple 29.dxe6. I really think White has some winning prospects in this variation.
Sep-14-07
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  Mateo: <kaligula: can anybody tell my why not 18. Kxb5 !? with extra pawn !!!!!> <ahmadov>: <kaligula: can anybody tell my why not 18. Kxb5 !? with extra pawn !!!!!> <You mean 18.Nxb5, right? I have not thought much about the position, but I think 18...Ba6 would be played then... I hope someone with better knowledge of chess can provide more detailed analysis...>

18.Nxb5 does not win a pawn. Black can answer 18...Nxe5 19.Nxe5 Bxe5 20.dxe5 Rxd1 21.Rxd1 cxb5 with only a slight advantage for White.

Sep-14-07  Topista: slomarko: <It is not as important for those who have an "aggressive" repertoire with black, but it is important for me with my classical repertoire. For me playing with white and with black is a big difference.> since Kramnik has a crappy repertoire with black i think FIDE should decide he plays all his games with white. slomarko .if the Kramtaker of the nineties returns,things will look bad for his oponents. He has played unbelievably great games in the past,why not now again?
Sep-14-07  Ulhumbrus: < 22 Bd3 c4 23 Bxc4 Nxc4 24 Qxc4 Qb4 25 Qxb4 axb4 26 Nd6 Bf8 27.d5 Bxd6 28.exd6 Rxd6 29.dxe6.> In this variation instead of 27...Rxd6, 27...Bc4! 28 dxe6 Bxe6 regains one of the pawns in another way. Then with the superior minor piece and White's h5 pawn weak, Black may have a draw at least
Sep-14-07  znprdx: <Ezzy: Stop bloody moaning you whiners.> Well there is no question of their skills and talent. But the problem which has plagued professional chess until the mercurial appearance of Tal, Fischer, Kasparov, Anand, and Carlsen is that for Chess fans we crave the "blood" as Fred Renfeld put it. Sure the more sophisticated of us enjoy the analysis - and with this great technology I certanly had "fun" speculating about what might happen. There are two simple analogies (other than to boxing - which I personally despise) the best is tennis and the other is sex. The former never can end in a tie and the latter is a real drag if things don't climax :) We must find a way to assure that positions are played out at least to the time control of 40 moves. I've contemplated the solution for decades and I think it has been staring us in the face since the advent of the digital clock and the acceptance of incremental time addition combined with endgame tablebase technology. I hope to publish it - at least on my blog hopefully by the end of this WCC tournament.
Sep-14-07
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  whiteshark: <Topista: <He has played unbelievably great games in the past, why not now again?>>

Experience, I think broad personal, salutary and practical experience.

Sep-14-07  hasanelias: tell please why not 22...Nd5???
Sep-15-07  you vs yourself: Wow, look at this: http://www.chessmexico.com/es/index...
Sep-15-07  cotdt: worst website ever
Sep-15-07  percyblakeney: Wow, when they finally write something...

<To the inmortal Pavarotti never even occurred to suspend a performance in the best moment just because he didn't feel like singing. But today, Kramkik and Svidler, decided to agreed on a tie in a position full of life, frustrating the worlds' fans with an attitude that should be prohibited.>

Some more of the same in the link <you vs yourself> posted.

Sep-15-07  drawocoward: < Wow, look at this:> wow, that's really tasteless.
Sep-15-07  percyblakeney: It's written by the same Garcia that in Linares 2006 called Radjabov's behaviour a shame and meant that he never should be invited again. That because he in the final round played his only draw in less than 23 moves (it was 20 moves long), that with black, and also after the game he had chances to win the whole tournament if Leko hadn't lost with white unexpectedly. Apart from Vallejo Radjabov was then the clearly lowest rated player in the tournament.
Sep-15-07  DCP23: Perhaps Garcia should play Svidler himself and show Kramnik and all of us how easy it is to take a full point from him?
Sep-15-07  aragorn69: Utter rubbish from Leontxo, like half his commentaries. Yesterday's round hopefully put a stop to his moaning. He might now even proclaim to have had an influence on Kramnik. The worst, though, IMHO is his praise of The Dunderhead about the Sofia rules: if they like them so much why don't the FIDE president and his stupid minions enforce them? Why criticize the players for playing under the rules that were agreed? At least, Mig can write this nonesense with some style (and command of the English language...).
Sep-15-07  ahmadov: <Mateo> Thanks for the post about Black's response to 18.Nxb5...
Sep-16-07  acirce: <Kramnik . . . bridled at questions querying his decision to make a draw in an unclear position in his first round game against Peter Svidler; "I am a World Champion - I am used to people writing [negative] things about me. If I play in a tournament, I want to win the tournament. I do the things that I think are right.">

http://main.uschess.org/content/vie...

Sep-16-07  refutor: why don't the Sicilian guys play 1.Nf3 c5 v. Kramnik? An Open Sicilian has to give better chances to White than a symmetrical English
Sep-16-07  Softpaw: <refutor: why don't the Sicilian guys play 1.Nf3 c5 v. Kramnik? An Open Sicilian has to give better chances to White than a symmetrical English...

Doesn't Kramnik play

1.Nf3 c5
2.c4

Sep-16-07  refutor: what i meant was that if the worst thing that can happen is the symmetrical english, that's not so bad for Black
Sep-17-07  Resignation Trap: Photo of the players at the start of the game: http://www.chesspro.ru/_images/mate... .
Sep-19-07  BlackNightmare: <Ezzy> yep you are totally right like todays leko kramnik draw in 24 moves was it round 4 5? i dunno but u do know dont ya? u know it all whats there to see in that game? huh? tell me oracle.. oh wait i need to read the commentators comments maybe i will learn a thing or two meanwhile dont let your fanboyism get to your testicles i hear its fatal
Jul-08-11  kluto: Lucky Kramnik it wasn't a boxing match. In chess he still gets a draw. He was standing KO at the end.
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