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Oct-02-07 | | you vs yourself: Kind of surprising that Mr.Keene doesn't say anything about the novelty, 17..c5! It was one of the key moves of the game. |
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Oct-02-07 | | sanyas: I would strongly advise Mr Keene against 'Vishy's Victory' as a title. |
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Oct-02-07 | | kellmano: <Sanyas> I concur.
Almost anything else would be a better title. |
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Oct-02-07
 | | kevin86: Artistic and lethal is black's attack! First,the terrible pawns hem in the white bishop. Later,white penetrated with an unwelcome rook-who is eventually thrashed. Finally,the black queen and rook come in for the kill. All in all a great one by Anand! |
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Nov-03-07 | | ChessAddict100: Call me stupid - but why is no one talking much about the novelty move 17.....c5 I have looked at all commentaries in web, and even the GMs are stumped at commenting deeply on this move. For example, i could find no commentary on what happens after 18.Nxb5 Would black launch a K side attack at the cost of 2 pawns lost on Q side ? what is blacks plan after Nxb5 ? Everyone is analysing only dxc5 |
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Nov-03-07 | | Resignation Trap: <ChessAddict100> If you go back to around page 4 of our kibitzing here, you will notice that many of us who were watching this game live noted Anand's 17...c5! |
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Nov-14-07
 | | Troller: <..c5> Peter Heine Nielsen (Anand's second) annotated this game deeply in the latest edition of "Skakbladet" (Danish Chess Magazine). He wrote that upon arriving in Mexico, Anand became nervous that they had not gone deeply enough into the anti-Moscow, so they spent some time reworking it. 17..c5 was mentioned in some old notes by Anand, where he dismissed the move. Nielsen now found - with computer help - that the move was indeed possible, mainly due to the non-standard moves 18..Qe7 and 20..Bc6. However, at the close of the tournament, one of "the other constetants" (no name mentioned) confided in Nielsen that he had actually prepared the move 5 or 6 years earlier, but never had the chance to play it. |
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Nov-24-07 | | Ulhumbrus: Aronian loses because he does not manage to get his KB into play, either by transferring the bishop to g2 or c2, or else by sacrificing it. The last chance to make the bishop useful may occur at move 24, when White can offer the bishop as a sacrifice. On 24 Bxg4 one variation is 24...hxg4 25 Rfe1 Qxc5 26 dxc6 Qxc6 27 f5 Nf6 28 Rd6 Qc5 29 Qd2 Qxf5 30 Re5 Qh7 and now the "slow motion" attack 31 Qf4 may lead to a win after 31...Qb1+ 32 Kh2 Nh7 33 Qxg4.
After 41...fg+ 42 Kg2 Qf7 threatens 43...Qf3 mate as well as 43...Qf2+ and White cannot prevent both of the checks except by offering an exchange of Queens, and so entering a hopeless ending. |
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Dec-04-07
 | | kingscrusher: I have video annotated this game here:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97SJ...
Please can someone confirm if 17..c5 was an Opening Novelty |
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Feb-05-08 | | Eyal: <Ulhumbrus: <Eyal: <Ulhumbrus: On 19 Rxd7 Qxd7 20 Bd6 f5 one possibility is 21 exf5 exf5 22 Nxb5 followed by Bxc4> 21...exf5 would be very weak for Black here - much better is 21...Rxf5, and if 22.Nxb5 then 22...gxf3; relatively best for White is probably 22.fxg4, e.g. 22...Rxf1+ 23.Bxf1 hxg4 24.Qg6 Qf7 25.Qxg4 a6 - the game isn't over, but Black is definitely better.> On 22...Rxf5 23 fxg4 Rxf1 24 Bxf1 hxg4 25 Be2 aims for Bxg4 getting the KB into play. One variation goes 25...Bd4+ 26 Kh2 Qc6 27 Bxg4 Bxc5 28 Qg6+ Kh8 29 Be5 mate.> Instead of 26...Qc6? and 27...Bxc5?? Black gains the initiative by 26...g3+! and is clearly better. <<<On 24 Bxg4 fxg4 25 Rfe1 attacks the black Q before she can go to c7 ( as for example after 25 dxc6 Nxc5 26 Rfe1 Qc7) Then on 25...Qxc5+ 26 Bf2 Qb4 27 dxc6 could be dangerous for Black.> Another possibility is 26...Qd6 27.dxc6 Qxc6, and in both cases (in the first, after 27...Nc5) I don't see anything really dangerous for Black - he seems to be simply a piece up.> 26...Qd6 27 dxc6 Qxc6 28 Qf5 forks the Nd7 and g4 pawn.> That's easily handled by 28...Nf6. White doesn't have anything which is even close to a compensation for a whole piece here. <Aronian loses because he does not manage to get his KB into play, either by transferring the bishop to g2 or c2, or else by sacrificing it. The last chance to make the bishop useful may occur at move 24, when White can offer the bishop as a sacrifice. On 24 Bxg4 one variation is 24...hxg4 25 Rfe1 Qxc5 26 dxc6 Qxc6 27 f5 Nf6 28 Rd6 Qc5 29 Qd2 Qxf5 30 Re5 Qh7 and now the "slow motion" attack 31 Qf4 may lead to a win after 31...Qb1+ 32 Kh2 Nh7 33 Qxg4.> After 32...Ne8, winning an exchange, White is left with a whole rook down and again - nothing real to show for it. After the the series of moves 22...Be5! 23.f4 Bg7 White is just left with a very bad LSB - and a rather bad DSB as well - vs. Black's two great minor pieces. He's probably lost strategically and there doesn't seem to be any miracle move (like 24.Bxg4) that can save him. |
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Feb-05-08 | | Eyal: ...Or rather, the closest thing to that would have been the possibility of giving up a rook for two passers with 27.axb5 that was already mentioned in the commentary. |
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Sep-20-08 | | notyetagm: This excellent win by Anand has just won the prestigious <BEST GAME PRIZE> for Chess Informant 101. http://www.chesscafe.com/informant/... |
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Sep-20-08 | | notyetagm: 10 ... g5-g4
 click for larger viewFrom GM Raymond Keene's annotations:
<Although Black's position is weakened on both wings he does enjoy an extra pawn. Furthermore a pattern is beginning to emerge in that Black's pawns on g4 and c4 are threatening to restrict the movement of White's f1-bishop.> A textbook example by Anand (Black) of <RESTRICTING THE MOBILITY OF YOUR OPPONENT'S PIECES>, with the Black g4- and c4-pawns covering important <LIGHT SQUARES> deep in the White position, cramping the light-squared White f1-bishop. |
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Sep-20-08 | | notyetagm: 18 ... ♕d8-e7!
 click for larger view<acirce: <... The superficial point is that Black needn't fear the pin on the d-file or the skewer 19.Bd6 because of 19..Qxh4 with mate threats.>> From GM Raymond Keene's annotations:
<19 Kg1-h1 This move seems insufficiently active. The critical line must be 19 Bd6 Qxh4 (threatening ... g3) 20 fxg4 Bh6 21 Rf3 with complications.> So this tactical sequence is a great example of <DEFENSIVE TACTICS>: Anand (Black) is able to escape from the <SKEWER> 19 ♗g3-d6 by making <MATING THREATS> with 19 ... ♕e7xh4. And now White cannot "win the exchange" with 20 ♗d6x♖f8?? because he will be mated by 20 ... g4-g3. (VAR) 19 ♗g3-d6 <skewer> ♕e7xh4 (Δ ... g4-g3)
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 click for larger view(VAR) 20 ♗d6x♖f8?? g4-g3 (mating)
 click for larger viewI particularly like how in this tactical sequence Black is constantly exploiting the <SQUARES LEFT BEHIND> by White's previous move. 19 ♗g3-d6 <LEAVES BEHIND> the h4-square for 19 ... ♕e7xh4, while 20 ♗d6x♖f8?? <LEAVES BEHIND> the g3-square for 20 ... g4-g3, mating. |
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Feb-21-09 | | notyetagm: http://www.chesscafe.com/text/infor...
<The Ten Best Games of Volume 101Milan Bjelajac
Viswanathan Anand showed that he was in good spirits and had great
ambitions to fight for the World Championship title in Mexico City. His
victory against Aronian in the second round of this tournament was voted
as the best game of Volume 101.
Anand, as black in a very popular variation of Semi-Slav Defense, played
the very strong novelty 17…c5!. It came as such a surprise to Aronian
that he followed up with the unnecessary 19.Kh1?! and the weak 21.
Nd5?. Anand began a strong counter-attack with the excellent 22…Be5!
and kept an initiative until the end of the game.> |
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Feb-26-09 | | Counterpoint: Crafty, or anyone with computer analysis - can you please give me the evaluation and possible lines after 27.Bxc4 bc 28. Qxc4 |
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May-04-09 | | Kinghunt: Counterpoint, 27. Bxc4 simply loses because 27... bxc4. If, as you suggest, 28. Qxc4, then Rybka gives a -6.1 evaluation after 28... Rad8 29. Rc5 Nxc5 30. Qxc5 Rd1. It just loses a bishop for a pawn without giving white any counterplay. |
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Mar-07-10 | | Ulhumbrus: <Eyal: <Ulhumbrus: <Eyal: <Ulhumbrus: On 19 Rxd7 Qxd7 20 Bd6 f5 one possibility is 21 exf5 exf5 22 Nxb5 followed by Bxc4> 21...exf5 would be very weak for Black here - much better is 21...Rxf5, and if 22.Nxb5 then 22...gxf3; relatively best for White is probably 22.fxg4, e.g. 22...Rxf1+ 23.Bxf1 hxg4 24.Qg6 Qf7 25.Qxg4 a6 - the game isn't over, but Black is definitely better.> On 22...Rxf5 23 fxg4 Rxf1 24 Bxf1 hxg4 25 Be2 aims for Bxg4 getting the KB into play. One variation goes 25...Bd4+ 26 Kh2 Qc6 27 Bxg4 Bxc5 28 Qg6+ Kh8 29 Be5 mate.> Instead of 26...Qc6? and 27...Bxc5?? Black gains the initiative by 26...g3+! and is clearly better.> On 27 Bxg3 White has not sacrificed any piece and Black's King's pawn cover has gone. White is ready for Qg6, Bg4 or Ne4. <<<<On 24 Bxg4 fxg4 25 Rfe1 attacks the black Q before she can go to c7 ( as for example after 25 dxc6 Nxc5 26 Rfe1 Qc7) Then on 25...Qxc5+ 26 Bf2 Qb4 27 dxc6 could be dangerous for Black.> Another possibility is 26...Qd6 27.dxc6 Qxc6, and in both cases (in the first, after 27...Nc5) I don't see anything really dangerous for Black - he seems to be simply a piece up.> 26...Qd6 27 dxc6 Qxc6 28 Qf5 forks the Nd7 and g4 pawn.> That's easily handled by 28...Nf6. White doesn't have anything which is even close to a compensation for a whole piece here.> 29 Bc5 threatens Be7 followed by Rd6 <<Aronian loses because he does not manage to get his KB into play, either by transferring the bishop to g2 or c2, or else by sacrificing it. The last chance to make the bishop useful may occur at move 24, when White can offer the bishop as a sacrifice. On 24 Bxg4 one variation is 24...hxg4 25 Rfe1 Qxc5 26 dxc6 Qxc6 27 f5 Nf6 28 Rd6 Qc5 29 Qd2 Qxf5 30 Re5 Qh7 and now the "slow motion" attack 31 Qf4 may lead to a win after 31...Qb1+ 32 Kh2 Nh7 33 Qxg4.> After 32...Ne8, winning an exchange, White is left with a whole rook down and again - nothing real to show for it.> 31 Rg5 may be better than 31 Qf4 so that on 31...Qb1+ 32 Kh2 Ne8 White has 33 Rd6-d5 <After the the series of moves 22...Be5! 23.f4 Bg7 White is just left with a very bad LSB - and a rather bad DSB as well - vs. Black's two great minor pieces. He's probably lost strategically and there doesn't seem to be any miracle move (like 24.Bxg4) that can save him.> The DSB may get freed by f5 and it defends h4 while the LSB may get sacrificed on g4, providing the sacrifice works. Black has exposed his King to attack, in fact invited attack on his King from the opening onwards. |
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Nov-20-11 | | VaselineTopLove: Anand needs to pull of something like this against Aronian again to find his mojo... |
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Jan-15-13 | | Hesam7: <VaselineTopLove: Anand needs to pull of something like this against Aronian again to find his mojo...> He just did ... |
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Jan-15-13 | | voyager39: Aronian vs Anand, 2013 is better then this one IMHO. And that the old man continues to contribute to Chess theory even in this Computer era, is nice indeed. |
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Jan-15-13 | | Hesam7: <voyager39: Aronian vs Anand, 2013 is better then this one IMHO.> I totally agree his win today was far more impressive in my opinion. When was the last time someone rated 2802 was lost after 16th moves with 'White' pieces? Simply incredible. |
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Jul-12-15 | | kramnov: Why not 19. Be6? seems Aronian had has advantage. |
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May-15-20 | | joddon: Turning point of Vishys career, as a result of this victory, he won 4 world titles. one can become a champion when rest of the competition is playing like garbage, such is the case with Carslen. Carlsen isn't as good as the world makes him, its just the case that his competition is completely garbage....Karjarkin is very close to being the only guy who could kill Carlsen but even he is nowhere good enough to do any harm. |
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Apr-14-21 | | Gaito: Position after 17...c5!
 click for larger view If now 18.Nxb5?! cxd4⩱ (ΔQb6) 19.Bxc4 Ne5 20.Be2 Qb6⩱ (20...f5!?⩱) |
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