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Alexander Grischuk vs Peter Svidler
World Championship Tournament (2007), Mexico City MEX, rd 6, Sep-19
Semi-Slav Defense: Anti-Moscow Gambit (D44)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Sep-19-07  you vs yourself: Amazing game! What seemed like a blunder(36..Ke8) shortened the day for Svidler and both players earned a well deserved the draw.
Sep-19-07  ajile: lame

White had some good play left IMO.

Sep-19-07  SCUBA diver: This is the best draw we saw for a long time. ..
Sep-19-07  Marmot PFL: Move 37 instead of Nxe6 maybe Qh8+ Ke7 Qg7 is winning, but the N sac looked good in time pressure.
Sep-19-07  acirce: <I can see white taking the rook and every black pawn except d2, then Qe1 but black just plays Be4-c2.>

Ah, yes <Marmot PFL> had it right from the beginning. That's a clear draw.

Sep-19-07  chessamateur: <Eyal> I don't know. I first saw it and thought White was winning but you see Black gets his pawn to d2 and the while the White Queen can get back it won't be able to do anything. Plus there will no way to take it because Black still has a bishop left.
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  chancho: Looking forward to tommorow's games. This has been an outstanding event so far.
Sep-19-07  acirce: i.e. the line being 41..Ke8 42.Qxa7 d3 43.Qxa6 d2 44.Qxe6+ Kf8 45.Qf5+ Ke8 46.Qxh5+ Kf8 =
Sep-19-07  CapablancaFan: <Eyal: Draw?! I find it hard to believe White can't play for a win after Qxa7.> Hard to say, but that passer pawn could tie up white. Also white didn't have to accept the draw offer, but he did. Shows his confidence level about the outcome wasn't too high.
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  Eyal: Ok, I see it's a draw now:-)
Sep-19-07  radu stancu: <Also white didn't have to accept the draw offer, but he did.> Based on who moved last I think it was white who offered the draw. In this position it was a bit disrespectful for black to offer it anyway. :)
Sep-19-07  Marmot PFL: 37.Qh8+ Ke7 39.Qg7 does look winning 39...Rf8 now loses to 40.Nxe6! and 39...Raa7 40.Qxf7+ Kd6 41.Qxe6+ Kc7 42.Qxa6 looks decisive. Keeping the knight makes a huge difference
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  Eyal: So it seems that both 36...Ke8 and and 37.Nxe6 were serious mistakes committed in the time trouble.
Sep-19-07  DDR: 37. Ne6?

Instead 37.Qh8 Ke7 38.Qg7 and I believe white wins.

Sep-19-07  radu stancu: <acirce: i.e. the line being 41..Ke8 42.Qxa7 d3 43.Qxa6 d2 44.Qxe6+ Kf8 45.Qf5+ Ke8 46.Qxh5+ Kf8 = > Yeah, even placing the queen in front of the pawn will only yield a draw because of Be4-c2. Grischuk most probably saw this too, that's why he didn't insist.
Sep-19-07  Jim Bartle: <Also white didn't have to accept the draw offer, but he did.>

Don't know who offered the draw, but it was white who kept repeating moves, instead of taking a rook.

Sep-19-07  Shams: <DDR><Ne6? Instead 37.Qh8 Ke7 38.Qg7 and I believe white wins.> During the game I thought 38.Qxh5, but your line looks stronger. I don't see a defense.
Sep-20-07  BlackNightmare: that grischuk is to be watched something tells me his upcoming games will be intersting
Sep-20-07  percyblakeney: Even if Grischuk missed the win when playing 37. Nxe6 instead of Qh8+ it can't have been easy to get these things right in time trouble. By then he had less than a minute left, and even engines recommended Nxe6.

After 23. ... Bxe5 Grischuk had sacrificed no less than three pawns, with 24. Bxc4 he sacrificed a bishop, with 32. Rxd4 the exchange, and then the knight with 37. Nxe6. You sure can't complain about the entertainment level...

Sep-20-07  Ezzy: 146) Grischuk (2732) - Svidler (2765) [D43]
FIDE World Championship Tournament 0:59:33–0:59:33 (6), 19.09.2007 [ 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.c4 c6 4.Nc3 e6 5.Bg5 h6 6.Bh4 dxc4 7.e4 g5 8.Bg3 b5 9.Be2 Bb7 10.h4 g4 11.Ne5 h5 12.0–0 Nbd7 13.Qc2 Nxe5 14.Bxe5 Bg7 15.Bg3 Qxd4 16.Rfd1 Qc5 17.Bd6< My mate Fritz likes this variation way above the move played or any others. [17.e5 Nd5 18.Ne4 Qe7 19.Nd6+ Kf8 20.b3=]> 17...Qb6 18.a4 a6 19.e5 <This seems to be overextending without due preparation.> 19...Nd7 20.a5 Qa7< During the live game I posted 2 diagrams - One of this position, and a position from the Aronian v Anand game where black's pawn structure was almost identical to this one. Anand commented that it severely restricts the movement of the white bishop, as in this position also. Little did I know that Grischuk was about to unleash this bishop into play in such a spectacular way.> 21.Ne4<I wonder if Grischuk already had a vision of Bxc4 around here. I suspect he may because he's already giving up more material - It must be for a reason.> 21...c5 22.Ng5 <This threatens 23 Nxe6 and pure carnage >22...Nxe5 23.Bxe5 Bxe5 24.Bxc4!! <BOOM!! The bolt from the blue. Did this rock Peter back on his chair, or was he half expecting it but couldn't really avoid it. Are you watching Lev Aronian, This is how you extract your inactive bishop out of a tight spot, by blasting open the position with it.> 24...bxc4 25.Qa4+ Kf8 26.Rd7< Grischuk 'The great' :-) now threatens 27 Rxf7+ Kg8 28 Qc2 Rh6 29 Rh7 and the rook on h6 is lost and white has a winning attack!> 26...Bd5< no other option really> 27.Rd1 Bd4 <[This line has a better if not winning endgame for white.27...Qb8 28.Rxf7+ Kg8 29.Rxd5 Rh6 (29...exd5 30.Qc6 winning) 30.Qd7 Qc7 31.Rg7+ Bxg7 (31...Kh8 32.Rxe5) 32.Qxc7 exd5 33.Qf7+ Kh8 34.Qxd5 Rf8 35.Nf7+ Rxf7 36.Qxf7 Bxb2 37.Qxc4]> 28.Rxa7 Rxa7 29.b3! <I'm stunned and totally impressed at how good these top players are. During Grischuk's earlier calculations he would have to have known that this 29 b3 move was a critical resource to maintain his position. The point is that the knight on g5 is trapped and the only way to save it or win another piece for it, is to play 29 b3! For example - If 29...cxb3 30 Rxd4 cxd4 31 Qxd4 attack’s both the rooks on a7 and h8. If 29...f6 30 bxc4 and if the bishop moves then black has 31 Nxe6 and the knight escapes. . BRILLIANT!! THESE PLAYERS ARE ON A DIFFERENT PLANET>. 29...Kg7 30.bxc4 Ba8 31.Qc2 g3 32.Rxd4 cxd4 33.Qe2 gxf2+ 34.Qxf2 Rd8 35.Qg3 Kf8 36.Qe5 Ke8 37.Nxe6[< There seems to be a win here which is eastyto miss in time trouble as it’s a long process37.Qh8+ Ke7 38.Qxh5 Rf8 39.Ne4 Rc7 40.Qe5 Rc6 41.Qxd4 Rd8 42.Qa7+ Rd7 43.Qxa8 Rxc4 44.h5 Rd1+ 45.Kh2 f5 46.Nc5 Rf1 47.Qa7+ Kd6 48.Ne4+ fxe4 49.Qxa6+ Kd5 50.Qb7+ Kd6 51.a6 e3 52.Qb6+ Ke7 53.Qb7+ Kd6 54.Qb8+ Ke7 55.Qa7+ Kd6 56.Qxe3 Ra1 57.Qb6+ Ke7 58.Qb7+ Kd8 59.a7 Rh4+ 60.Kg3 Rha4 61.h6 Rxa7 62.Qb8+ Ke7 63.h7 Ra8 64.h8Q Rxb8 65.Qxb8]> fxe6 38.Qh8+ Ke7 39.Qg7+ Ke8 40.Qh8+ <[40.Qxa7 d3 41.Qxa6 Ke7 42.Qa7+ Rd7 43.Qc5+ Kd8 44.Qb6+ Kc8 and white can't stop the 'd' pawn so has to repeat moves.]> 40...Ke7 41.Qg7+ ˝–˝

Sep-20-07  Ezzy: The most exciting game of the tournament so far. What an incredible game!! This could go down as the draw of the year. Grischuk did seem to miss a win, but in time trouble was not easy. Had he of found the win, then it would have been one of his best ever wins.

I’m in awe of both these players calculating abilty Some of the moves they both had to find were totally amazing. 24 Bxc4!! Is the move of the tournament for me, and then to understand the subtle moves like 29 b3! Is way beyond most mortal’

I have had my money’s worth already. This was just a sensational game to watch. Real credit to both players. Mexico will be proud of this draw.

SUPPORT THE DRAW –That’s what I say.

Sep-20-07  cn1ght: I went to house of chess Wednesday, gm Shabalov was going over the game, and neither he, I, nor any of the other 12 people were able to find why 37. N-h7 does not win for white. Well, actually there was a continuation in which Shablov said it was a draw, but I think he changed that stance to white still winning although he had begun going over it mentally and not telling us the moves or moving the pieces by that point... If someone can confirm this via computer I'd appreciate it, because as I said none of us after looking at it for about 15 minutes, could explain why my move was not superior to the move played, with the possible exeption of time trouble.
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  ganstaman: <Jim Bartle: <Also white didn't have to accept the draw offer, but he did.> Don't know who offered the draw, but it was white who kept repeating moves, instead of taking a rook.>

Yes, but we seem short 1 move for the draw. That is, after 41...Ke8, white could claim a draw by saying "I'm going to play 42. Qh8+, which bings up the position for the third time."

Note that white made the last move in this game. Proper drawing procedure is to make your move, offer the draw, and then hit your clock. So here, white must have offered the draw, and black accepted instead of moving. If black had offered a draw, white would have simply accepted and could not make his last move.

Also, both players had nearly no time to make their 40th moves (but got that extra hour after moves 40 were made). I doubt either had time to consider a draw offer on move 40. But there was plenty of time to consider making a draw offer with move 41.

Sep-20-07  percyblakeney: Grischuk offered the draw almost immediately after the time control. It looks hard to calculate in detail that there is no winning line for white, but after looking at it for no more than 30 seconds Grischuk realised that 42. Qxa7 meant a draw.
Sep-20-07  percyblakeney: <I, nor any of the other 12 people were able to find why 37. N-h7 does not win for white>

I think it does win, but it isn't easy to see all the lines.

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