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Klaus Meier vs Alvin Alfonso Howell
European Club Cup (2007), Kemer TUR, rd 3, Oct-05
Sicilian Defense: Scheveningen Variation. English Attack (B80)  ·  0-1



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Jul-25-17  saturn2: ..Rf2+ is not only the move to save black's queen but also to win the white queen two moves later.
Jul-25-17  stacase: <nalinw: *&^%$
I went with 31. ... Qf3# ....>

I went with 30. ...Rf2+ (-:

Sorry I couldn't pass that one up.

Jul-25-17  jith1207: <*&^%$
I went with 31. ... Qf3# ....>

However, I like that idea as well. If you play 31...Bc8, White queen is forced to move somewhere, which makes g4 clear for LSB. 32...Bg4#

Same mate with LSB, rather...

Jul-25-17  morfishine: <30...Rf2+> wins: 31.Bxf2 Qxf2+ 32.Kd3 and now <32...Nc5+> forks the White Queen


Jul-25-17  jith1207: sorry, these must have been 30...Bc8 and 31...Bg4#
Jul-25-17  jith1207: ha ha, 31...Bg4 is not a mate, white can play Nf3, which brings back <stacase>'s Qf3#
Jul-25-17  Iwer Sonsch: I got 30...Rf2+ 31.Bxf2 Qxf2+ 32.Kd3 Nc5+ 33.Kc3, and then decided to search on for serious mate threats after 33...Qe3+ while overlooking (for a while) the simple 33...Nxe6.
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  whiteshark: Royal fork after <30...Rxf2+ 31.Bxf2 Qxf2+ 32.Kd3 Nc5+>
Jul-25-17  malt: Got 30...Rf2+ 31.B:f2 Q:f2+ 32.Kd3 Rf8 (32...Nc5+ )< threat of 33...Rf3+ 34.N:f3 Q:f3+ 35.Kd4 Qc3# > 33.Rh3 Nc5+
Jul-25-17  The Kings Domain: Tougher than its "Easy" description, I first thought of the text move but missed the knight fork on c5 so decided on 30) ... Qf4 instead. Good game.
Jul-25-17  malt: After 32.Kd3 Rf8 33.Rh3 (33...Nc5+)33...Bb2 looks good
Jul-25-17  zb2cr: The threat of the White Bishop on the Black Queen must be dealt with. How very nice that the Rook check 30. ... Rf2+ does that. White is forced into 31. Bxf2, Qxf2+; 32. Kd3, Nc5+. The Knight fork wins the Queen, leaving Black up by Q vs. R+P.
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  benveniste: When I checked my "solution" on the computer, it _didn't_ want me to choose the royal fork. Instead, it claimed that 32. ... ♕b3 was mate in 9!

32. ... ♕b3
33. ♔e2 ♖f8
34. ♘f5 ♕f2+
35. ♔d3 ♗b4
36. ♕xd5 ♗xd5
37. {N|e3 ♖f3
38. c3 ♖xe3+
39. ♔d4 ♘xc3
40. ♗d3+ ♖e4#

Jul-25-17  malt: 30...Rf2+ 31.B:f2 Q:f2+ 32.Kd3 Rf8 (32...Nc5+) < threat of 33...Rf3+ 34.N:f3 Q:f3+ 35.Kd4 Qc3# > 33.Rh3 Bb2 34.Qb6 B:d4 35.Qb4 (35.Q:d4 Rf3+ 36.R:f3 Q:f3+ 37.Qe3 Q:d1+ 38.Qd2 Q:d2# ) 35...Bc5 < threatening Q and 36...Rf3+ >
Jul-25-17  takchess: This is what I got, let's see....
31 Bxf2 QXf2+
32 Kd3 Nc5+
33 king moves to c3 or c4 ,Nxe6 capturing the queen There could be a mate in here but Queen capture bailout seems safest
Jul-25-17  Pasker: Wasted some time looking for a checkmate. Didn't even think about anything less than that since its tuesday right?
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  kevin86: Black will mate quickly.
Jul-25-17  alphee: Well, this one was a gift ...
Jul-25-17  takchess: I"m curious. If black did not play the Knight fork and gave white a tempo to make an unforced move; Does white have a perpetual or win here ?
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  drollere: the N is the soul of chess. everything else is just a glorified shuffle puzzle.

once i saw that the K only had one flight square after Qxf2+, the N fork popped to view. no, i did not see the "mate in 9" with Qg3+ -- not from the puzzle position.

but with a R in reserve, the B pair and a Q in the white ranks, the white P's will quickly fall and the R's will be fat targets for the B's.

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  Jimfromprovidence: <malt> <After 32.Kd3 Rf8 33.Rh3 (33...Nc5+)33...Bb2 looks good>

Interesting position.

FWIW 33...Bc5 works also.

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The knight has no decent flight squares. If 34 Nf5, for example, then 34...Bb4 (threatening 35...Nc5#) works.

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Jul-25-17  ChessHigherCat: Nc3+ and white has the choice between 31. Bxc3 Rf2# or 31. Kd2 Rf2+ 32. Bxf2 Qxf2 33. Kd3 Nc5+ at least wins the queen, but I'm probably missing a mate
Jul-25-17  swclark25: Agreed with <agb2002> thru moves 33.

Then, assuming White takes Black Knight with
34)Nxe6 Rc8+
Queen, Rook, Bishop can keep checking and taking pieces with mate to follow...

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  gawain: This one practically plays itself if you first try the forcing moves ...Rf2+ then ...Qxf2+ and--no quick mate--there is a fork to win the white queen. Not bad.
Jul-25-17  malt: 33...Bb2

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34.Qb6 (34.Nf5 Nc5# )34...B:d4 35.Qb4 <35.Q:d4 Rf3+ 36.R:f3 Q:f3+ 37.Qe3 Q:d1+ 38.Qd2 Q:Ld2# > 35...Bc5 threatening 36...Rf3+ and the Q

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