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|Jan-13-08|| ||ounos: <What went wrong?>
|Jan-13-08|| ||hovik2003: For one instance Gelfand 23.Bxg6 doesn't seems right, he could have tried 23.Bf5 with better control of white squares.|
|Jan-13-08|| ||hovik2003: <plang: I assumed that 30 Ba5 was a losing blunder and that Gelfand was fine before that!?>|
you missed something , how you prevent mate by bishop on f3 without losing the white knight?
|Jan-13-08|| ||Eyal: The losing blunder is 29.Rxg6?? after which 29...Bf2! threatens both Bxg3 and Bf3#. Gelfand should probably have played 29.Ne4.|
|Jan-13-08|| ||hovik2003: <Eyal: The losing blunder is 29.Rxg6?? after which 29...Bf2! threatens both Bxg3 and Bf3#. Gelfand should probably have played 29.Ne4.>|
I know 29.Rxg6?? was downright blunder but before that seems like he has no good plans and is already losing, well engine evals will show if I am not wrong.
|Jan-13-08|| ||whiteshark: Don't push the <find similar games> button!|
|Jan-13-08|| ||adair10: In the post-game interview on chessvibes.com Aronian mentioned whites 22.Qe2 was a mistake after which he got advantage. Suggested 22.Bb1 instead.|
|Jan-13-08|| ||Ezzy: Gelfand,Boris (2737) - Aronian,Levon (2739) [D11]
Corus Chess 2008 Wijk aan Zee (2), 13.01.2008
1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3 a6 5.Nc3 b5 6.c5 Nbd7 7.Bd3 e5 8.Nxe5 Nxe5 9.dxe5 Ng4 10.f4 Bxc5 11.Qf3 Qb6 12.Ke2 Nh6 13.h3 Nf5< Could be the novelty. 13...a5 has been played before.>14.g4 Ne7 15.Bd2 0–0 16.Rac1 f6< Simple threat of 17...fxe5 and white can't retake because of blacks rook attack on the queen.> 17.exf6 Rxf6 18.e4 Bd4 19.exd5 cxd5 20.Kd1 <This position can get tactically complicated. [20.Nxd5 Nxd5 (20...Bb7 21.Bxh7+ Kf7 22.Nxb6 Bxf3+ 23.Kxf3 Rxb6 White is 2 pawns up.) 21.Qxd5+ Re6+ 22.Kf1 Bb7 23.Qb3 Bxh1 24.Re1 Rae8 25.Bf5 Qc6 Threatening the pretty 26...Bg2 mate. 26.Rxe6 Bg2+ 27.Ke2 Kh8 28.Rxe8+ Qxe8+ and Aronian is a pawn down in a complicated middlegame.]> 20...Rf7 21.Re1 <Gelfand now threatens 22 Rxe7 Rxe7 23 Qxd5+ Kh8 24 Qxa8> 21...Bb7 22.Qe2 With the idea 23 Qe6 24 Bxh7+ 22...Ng6 23.Bxg6 hxg6 24.Qe6 Rd8 25.Qxb6 Bxb6 26.Re6 Ba7 27.Ne2< Aronian gains some strong initiative if - [27.Rxg6 d4 28.Nb1 Re8 Threatening 29...Bf3+ 30 Kc2 Be4+]> 27...d4 28.Ng3 d3 29.Rxg6?? <Oh Boris? Disaster for Gelfand. He had to keep the 'e' file covered so he could defend with Ne4>. 29...Bf2 30.Ba5 Bxg3 1–0<31.Bxd8 Bf3+ 32.Kd2 Bxf4+ 33.Kxd3 Rd7+ 34.Kc3 Bxc1 etc>
Quite a complex game. Aronian is well known to be a great tactician, so this game suited him down to the ground. Shame about the blunder, but Aronian’s bishops after 28…d3 were cutting the board in half.
So it’s 2/2 for Levon and he is looking mean. I didn’t fancy him to do well in this tournament after he had a ragged Mexico, but He is making my prediction of finishing 11th look very silly. Ah well.
|Jan-13-08|| ||Bobsterman3000: Not bad for a <cheap tactician> !!|
|Jan-13-08|| ||Eyal: <Ezzy: 20.Nxd5 Nxd5 21.Qxd5+ Re6+ 22.Kf1 Bb7 23.Qb3 Bxh1 24.Re1 Rae8 25.Bf5 Qc6 Threatening the pretty 26...Bg2 mate. 26.Rxe6 Bg2+ 27.Ke2 Kh8 28.Rxe8+ Qxe8+ and Aronian is a pawn down in a complicated middlegame.> |
Instead of 23...Bxh1, 23...Kh8! breaking the pin on the a2-g8 diagonal, seems to be clearly winning for Black - e.g. 24.Bf5 Ree8 25.Rh2 Bg1 26.Re2 Rxe2 27.Kxe2 Qf2+ 28.Kd1 Rd8.
|Jan-13-08|| ||Everett: Seems like Aronian is more of an <expensive tactician> as he takes points and prize money away from his competitors.|
|Jan-13-08|| ||Gouki: bishop pair on open lines cutting the board in half! I definitely wouldnt want to be in white's position :D|
entertaining game by Aronian!
|Jan-13-08|| ||whatthefat: Aronian stumbles his way into the lead of the tournament. :)|
|Jan-13-08|| ||Ezzy: <Eyal: Instead of 23...Bxh1, 23...Kh8! breaking the pin on the a2-g8 diagonal, seems to be clearly winning for Black - e.g. 24.Bf5 Ree8 25.Rh2 Bg1 26.Re2 Rxe2 27.Kxe2 Qf2+ 28.Kd1 Rd8.> Yes 23...Kh8! is a good move. I seemed to have rushed my analysis there. Nice find!|
|Jan-13-08|| ||acirce: Gelfand's mistake was not to play 1.e3 aiming for 1..e5 2.e4! Nf6 3.Nf3 and he easily makes a draw.|
|Jan-13-08|| ||notyetagm: <Ezzy: ...30.Ba5 Bxg3 1–0<31.Bxd8 Bf3+ 32.Kd2 Bxf4+ 33.Kxd3 Rd7+ 34.Kc3 Bxc1 etc>>|
A great example of the immense power of the <BISHOP PAIR>.
Position after 32 ... ♗g3xf4+
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|Jan-13-08|| ||notyetagm: <acirce: Gelfand's mistake was not to play 1.e3 aiming for 1..e5 2.e4! Nf6 3.Nf3 and he easily makes a draw.>|
Oh god, not a Reversed Petroff. :-)
|Jan-14-08|| ||notyetagm: http://chessmind.powerblogs.com/fil...|
A tremendous example of <RESTRAINT> by Aronian.
<18.e4 This looks very good at first glance: White wants to shove on to e5, when his mighty kingside phalanx will start to frighten Black's king. Black could stop that by taking on e4, but after 19.Nxe4 White's pieces are beautifully placed. Aronian finds a perfect third solution.
18...Bd4! So much for 19.e5! Furthermore, this removes the bishop from its vulnerable spot on the c-file while making the c-pawn mobile. That could prove valuable at some point, if Black first plays ...Bb7. >
Position after 18 e3-e4 ♗c5-d4! <restraining 19 e4-e5>
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|Jan-14-08|| ||hovik2003: <notyetagm >
Exactly, Aronian's 18...Bd4! turned the tables at one shot.
|Jan-14-08|| ||Domdaniel: <acirce> -- <Gelfand's mistake was not to play 1.e3 ...>|
Strangely, there are two games in the CG database starting 1.e3 e5 2.e4 Nf6, but both White players chickened out of the Reversed Petroff by playing the bizarre 3.Nc3 -- some sort of inverted Spaniard?
One of them drew. The other - K Nieuwelink vs F Snijders, 2001 - even won.
That's a healthy 75% for the <No, After You> Attack.
|Jan-14-08|| ||crwynn: Aronian did not seem to think 18...Bd4 was so great for Black; he said things went really wrong with Qe2 instead of Bb1 and Qd3|
|Jan-14-08|| ||notyetagm: <hovik2003: <notyetagm >
Exactly, Aronian's 18...Bd4! turned the tables at one shot.>|
Yes, a great comment by IM Monokroussos.
This concept of <RESTRAINT> is -very- important: you simply must find a way to prevent your opponent from making threatening/necessary pawn advances.
The game could have turned out very differently if White had been able to play 19 e4-e5, which after Aronian's <RESTRAINING> 18 ... ♗c5-d4! just drops a pawn to the <PIN> 19 ... ♗d4xe5!.
|Jan-15-08|| ||goldenbear: I think this opening is nothing more than a tricky type opening for White and has no value whatsoever. By move 10, Black obviously has a better position (if not an outright won position). By the way, in the way of tricks, I think White should have played 14.Bd2 (instead of g4) and if 14.O-O, then 15.b4! ought to win.|
|Jan-15-08|| ||goldenbear: Actually, 14.Bd2, then d4 just wins. I don't know what to say about this opening choice by Gelfand. A extra doubled pawn is just not worth this torture.|
|Jan-22-08|| ||jonnymalk: e3 pawn came under too much pressure
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