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Jan-26-08
 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: I did not see 58...h2. I thought Chuky was done for. |
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Jan-26-08 | | Ulhumbrus: It looks like a draw now . 56 fxg5 instead of 56 f5 might have won. |
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Jan-26-08 | | Marmot PFL: Looks fairly simple draw. If white brings his king to help the b pawn he loses the g pawn, and the rook vs pawn ending is drawn. |
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Jan-26-08 | | whiteshark: White can't make any progress. |
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Jan-26-08 | | Ulhumbrus: If the time control was at move 56, Aronian may have let a win slip in time pressure. |
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Jan-26-08 | | boz: Time to start moving the rooks back and forth, back and forth. |
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Jan-26-08 | | chessic eric: <Ulhumbrus> if 56.fxg5,hxg3, i think it may be black who is better off, since that case the black king can't be lured away from the h8 square and white has only king moves, but can't get at the g3 pawn. |
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Jan-26-08 | | SCUBA diver: Chucky should play R-b5. .. |
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Jan-26-08
 | | Gregor Samsa Mendel: Ivanchuk, don't play 62...Kxg3! I think it's a trap! |
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Jan-26-08 | | Resignation Trap: At move 54, I immediately thought of this game: Polugaevsky vs Vasiukov, 1967 , where White won with the f4-f5-f6+ maneuver. Give Chuky credit for coming up with the 56...h3 idea. |
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Jan-26-08 | | Ulhumbrus: <chessic eric: <Ulhumbrus> if 56.fxg5,hxg3, i think it may be black who is better off, since that case the black king can't be lured away from the h8 square and white has only king moves, but can't get at the g3 pawn.> On 56 fxg5 hxg3 White's King threatens Black's g pawn, say from g2, White's g pawn advances to g6, and Black is in zugzwang |
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Jan-26-08 | | whiteshark: 62.Rd7 is a last try |
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Jan-26-08 | | chessic eric: <Gregor Samsa Mendel> ;-) |
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Jan-26-08 | | ewart cooper: you think it is |
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Jan-26-08 | | SCUBA diver: R-b5 may even win for black. .. |
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Jan-26-08 | | Ulhumbrus: <chessic eric> Having looked at it further, I don't think that 56 fxg5 wins either. The White King seems to lack shelter from checks if it tries to support the b pawn |
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Jan-26-08
 | | chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for stopping by today. Remember, tomorrow is the final round and it starts one hour earlier than the other rounds (6:30am USA/Eastern). See you then! |
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Jan-26-08 | | chessic eric: <Ulhumbrus> you may be right, but black does have ...Rb2 if the white king tries to reach g2 via f1. But it does look like a zugzwang from here: click for larger view |
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Jan-26-08 | | socratead: <chessis_eric>After 56. fxg5 hxg3 57. g6 ... 58. Kf1 .. 59. Kg2 and black loses the g3 pawn. Black is in zugswang no moves with the king, no moves with the rook, no moves with the pawn. I think Ulhumbrus is right, white would have won... |
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Jan-26-08 | | Gilmoy: White had one more trick: 62..Rb5 63.Kc2! Kxg3?? 64.Rd3+ and 65.Rb3 -- protecting by skewer :) Hence Ivanchuk played 62..Kh3 to shield his K sideways (since 63.Rh7+? Kxg3 really is safe). |
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Jan-26-08 | | Ulhumbrus: <socratead> <chessic eric> White does create zugzwang and win Black's passed pawn . The trouble is that after that the white king seems to lack shelter from checks, if the white king tries to support White's passed pawn. |
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Jan-26-08 | | socratead: <Ulhumbrus> Yes, I have to correct my statement, white would have won the g pawn but not game. The game is still drawn, he cannot promote even with 2 pawns ahead. As you said checks by black forever and keep the b file... |
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Jan-26-08 | | minasina: This was live commentary http://chesspro.ru/chessonline/onli... (in Russian) (“Translated”: http://www.google.com/translate?u=h...
The board is not functioning at the translated page)
GM Sergei Shipov ‘s post commentary for Kramnik vs Carlsen, 2008 includes also commentary for this
game (in Russian) http://online.crestbook.com/wijk08-... |
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Jan-27-08 | | notyetagm: White to play: 22 ?
 click for larger viewFrom http://www.coruschess.com/report.ph...: <Levon should have played 22.Rd2! Qxd2 23.Nxd2 bxc3 24.Qc2 cxd2 25.Rd1, with a huge advantage.>  click for larger viewSo it looks like Aronian missed a great opportunity to take a 1/2-point lead over Carlsen into the last round. |
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Jan-24-10
 | | Fusilli: <notyetagm: White to play: 22 ?
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<Levon should have played 22.Rd2! Qxd2 23.Nxd2 bxc3 24.Qc2 cxd2 25.Rd1, with a huge advantage.>>I fail to see why Black would have had to play 22...Qxd2. Is 22...Qc7 worse? Why? |
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