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Magnus Carlsen vs Peter Leko
Carlsen - Leko Rapid Match (2008) (rapid), Miskolc HUN, rd 2, May-28
Caro-Kann Defense: Classical Variation (B18)  ·  1/2-1/2



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May-28-08  shintaro go: Draw on repetition??? barely out of the opening???
May-29-08  thathwamasi: Magnus is like a mirror. The opponent's style will be shown in his games I guess. If the opponent is Anand he goes for an all out attack and if the opponent is Leko, he draws at 18.
May-29-08  Alphastar: Well, white didnt achieve much out of the opening. The game is about equal, so a draw by repetition is not unlikely.
May-29-08  znprdx: This is pathetic. I want my money back now that they have done their little warm-up routine - let's hope we see some actual Chess
May-29-08  sallom89: <If the opponent is Anand he goes for an all out attack and if the opponent is Leko, he draws at 18.>

HAHAHA! it was a hard fought game after all.

May-29-08  acirce: Well, mirror theories aside Lékó pretty rarely draws this quickly, and very rarely with White; just one draw under 20 moves with White since 2005, even with rapid and blindfold games counted, and that one was to guarantee him the victory in the Candidates Match: Leko vs Bareev, 2007

From where does the perception come that Lékó is such an excessive "quick drawer"? Since it's not reality, what is it?

May-29-08  VinnyRoo2002: It's the fact that his games are boring and that correlates in people's minds with quick draws. Also, since his draw percentage is one of the higher ones in chess, people probably just assume he also has a lot of quick draws.

Also, I know we can debate whether Leko's style is in fact boring and we could go into the whole beauty is in the eye of the beholder discussion, but I think most people would agree that Leko has a very dry style. I use to be one of his biggest fans until he played like a coward against Kramnik and blew his chance to be world champion, now I just find his games to boring to go over. Granted, you can sure learn a lot from studying some of them.

May-29-08  Everett: <VinnyRoo2002> Thank you for clarifying that your opinion is based on your perception of him playing <like a coward against Kramnik>, and how this experience has colored your subsequent opinion of his games. For a moment there I thought your view may have been a learned and objective assessment from profound understanding and deep study.
May-30-08  VinnyRoo2002: I was merely addressing acirce's question on why people have the PERCEPTION that Leko has a lot of quick draws. Because he inquired about people's perceptions, I think that subjective opinions are completely valid in addressing that point. Also, I stated that style is a matter of taste and that people can disagree. It's like how some people can see a women and find her really attractive while other's could find her completely unattractive. I don't have to go into a detail by detail account of the person to state why I find her attractive or unattractive, just that I do. I find Leko's style extremely boring and I think many people would agree with me, some do not. I think since a high percentage of people consider Leko's style to be boring, they also have the perception that he plays a lot of quick draws.

Also, I paid close attention to the Leko/Kramnik match and while I've forgotten some of my impressions as the match was awhile ago, I remember that while Leko had an extremely good chance of winning the match, he played overly cautious and it perhaps cost him the match. If you're familiar with American football, I'd compare Leko's strategy at the end to a prevent defense at the end of a football game. Often times, it is a poor strategy. Furthermore, other people may disagree and think the strategy was a smart one as he only needed to draw to win the title, my contention is that he should have played the last game like he played the previous 11 as it was good enough to put him in the lead, so it had a higher probability of keeping him in the lead than playing an overly safe opening.

Jun-01-08  Everett: <VinnyRoo2002>

Your point is well-argued. In fact, it served to define the term "boring" for me, better than I could before.

Jun-02-08  Whack8888: Leko is pretty boring -- you can always count on him to get his -1 score though, hehe.
Aug-14-09  Blunderdome: I think the current picture on Carlsen's player page is from this game, after 5. Nc5.

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