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| Jun-01-08 | | SetNoEscapeOn: Even in blitz, this would be a horrible game at Anand's level. It just seems to me that since Mexico, Anand's handling of the opening has been very shaky. He's was able to get through it in Linares through sheer playing strength, but it will not work in the match with Kramnik. His rapid form needs to improve as well because in the short 12 game match the chance that there will be tie break games is very high. Good win by Chucky, but of course Anand's rapid results, career-wise, are still in a class of their own. For instance, he has won Leon 7 times... |
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| Jun-01-08 | | hedgeh0g: Okay, I must be missing something...
...why not 14...Qxe2? |
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| Jun-01-08 | | notyetagm: White to play: 15 ?
click for larger view<Aspirador: 15.Rd4!! is a monster. Most players would not have found this move. The only move that wins, black is fine otherwise. It's oversimplified to say that Anand "simply blundered his queen".> Position after 15 ♖d1-d4!! 
click for larger viewYes, Anand would have seen this move if it was obviously winning. Once again, a thunderous blow by Ivanchuk wins a game right in the opening, just like his 9 ♗f1xb5+! move against Bu at M-Tel. |
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| Jun-01-08 | | littlefermat: Ouch, what an awful way to lose a game. Barely out of the opening and Anand crumbles. At least it's only rapid and not classical time controls. |
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| Jun-01-08 | | Marmot PFL: It semed like Anand wanted to avoid the usual 11...Bxc3 12.de6 Bb4 13.ed7 Qxd7 to try to confuse Ivanchuk with a more complicated line, and it all backfired. |
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| Jun-01-08 | | KamikazeAttack: <Udit Narayan: Anand simply blundered his queen away in a blitz game! Not that hard to believe, nor does it prove who is the better player between Chucky and Vishy.> It proves Chucky crushed Anand in this game though. And that is all that counts here. |
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| Jun-01-08 | | Poisonpawns: 15.Rd4 is simple to see, i dont understand all the exclams :-)Anand cant trade queens because two pieces would be attacked.Anand just missed it,thats all.nothing spectacular.He tried to get out of the snare but Ivanchuk;the pro that he is,finished him off as expected. |
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| Jun-01-08 | | Udit Narayan: <Dim Weasel> Thanks, now I realise this was the last rapid game of the match. Anand's black square bishop was just poorly placed. |
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| Jun-01-08 | | SetNoEscapeOn: <hedgehog>
I'm sure you've seen the answer by now; just go one move forward in your analysis. White simply recaptures 1-0. |
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| Jun-02-08 | | notyetagm: Position after 14 ... ♕e8-e4?
click for larger view<Udit Narayan: ... Anand's black square bishop was just poorly placed.> Position after 15 ♖d1-d4!!
click for larger viewYes, the Black b4-bishop is -very- poorly placed, because it is both <UNDEFENDED> (<LACK OF PROTECTION>) and <LINED UP> with the Black e4-queen (<MISPLACED PIECES>). 14 ... ♕e4-e8? is a bad move -precisely- because it <LINES UP> the Black e4-queen with the <UNDEFENDED> Black b4-bishop, allowing White (Ivanchuk) to set up a winning <DISCOVERED ATTACK> with 15 ♖d1-d4!!. Again, I cannot emphasize enough how dangerous it is when you <LINE UP YOUR PIECES>. To paraphrase the EVERYMAN author Walker, <<<<EVERY TIME YOU SEE YOUR OPPONENT'S PIECES LINED UP (Black e4-queen + Black b4-bishop) YOU SHOULD BE THINKING PIN, SKEWER, AND FORK>>>>. |
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| Jun-02-08 | | notyetagm: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail...
<In the last game there was an abrupt finish when world champion Vishy Anand made a transposition of moves which led him to a lost position, Ivanchuk remarked that a similar mistake was made by Petrosian against Polugaevsky.> So it seems that two(!) World Champions have played the game-losing
blunder 14 ... ♕e8-e4?.
Does anyone know exactly what Polugaevsky-Petrosian game Ivanchuk is referencing? I could not find it in the cg.com database using the Opening Explorer. Thanks
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| Jun-02-08 | | Marmot PFL: <notyetagm:> Ivanchuk probably just meant a similar tactical mistake, not this identical position.
Possibly he meant this game Polugaevsky vs Petrosian, 1960, where black should just play 18...Qxd8, but by playing 18...Ba6? he forces 19.Qe3, and with the white queen defended by the QB the threat of e6 wins. |
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| Jun-02-08 | | parmetd: 14. Qxe2 is the only way to hold the game forcing the line Bxe2 Rb8 black is clearly worse but at least material is even... here white can try Nxd5 Nxd5 Rxd5 Bb7 or Bf4 to prepare Nx with discovery on the rook. |
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| Jun-02-08 | | parmetd: also Bxd5 in the continuing line 16... Qh5 17. Qxh5 Nxh5 18. Bxd5! is better than Bb4 even Rxd5 is better than Bb4. |
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| Jun-09-08 | | Shajmaty: <Udit Narayan: Anand simply blundered his queen away in a blitz game! Not that hard to believe, nor does it prove who is the better player between Chucky and Vishy.> As already stated by <luzhin> & <Dim Weasel>, Vishy did not blunder the Queen, but a PIECE, and not in a blitz game, but in a RAPID game. Furthermore, who said Chuky is better than Vishy? Well... peace, love... and bunny rabbits! |
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| Jun-09-08 | | VaselineTopLove: It seems that 3 world champions (Petrosian, Kramnik, and now Anand) have blundered with Qe4 in the early stages of the game. Recall the Anand-Kramnik match from 2005. |
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| Jun-18-08 | | hedgeh0g: <SetNoEscapeOn: <hedgehog> I'm sure you've seen the answer by now; just go one move forward in your analysis. White simply recaptures 1-0.> I still don't see it...please show me what I'm missing: 14...Qxe2 15. Bxe2 Rb8 16. Nxd5 Nxd5 17. Rxd5
I don't see anything else for White...
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| Jun-20-08 | | niemzo: <hedgehog> I think he meant 15...Qxe2.
In your line, instead of 16.Nxd5, how about 16.Rd4 again. The bishop appears to be trapped and white must be winning a piece. |
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| Jul-12-08 | | PinnedPiece: <<hedgehog> I think he meant 15...Qxe2. In your line, instead of 16.Nxd5, how about 16.Rd4 again. The bishop appears to be trapped and white must be winning a piece.> Very interesting. But what about 16 .. Pa5? This prevents any immediate threat to the bishop. Now if 17 a3 Nb3 Fork.
If 17 Nxd5 Nxd5 ==
18 Bc4 Nc3 and the Knight can't be taken or the rooks get forked... 19 Bd2 Nc5e4 and the bishop has an exit route.
20 BxN NxB and the black bishop gets c5.
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| Jun-07-09 | | hedgeh0g: I was reminded of this game while looking at Carlsen vs Wang Yue, 2009 and thought I'd look at this game with Fritz 11, because it really didn't seem so clear cut to me after 14...Qxe2. In fact, this is the recommended move and while White does maintain an advantage, it's not completely winning. It suggests 15. Bxe2 (obviously) and 15...Bd7 instead of Rb8, so in the end, White is up the exchange for a pawn and has a good advantage (approx. 0.85), but it's better than the game continuation for sure. If 15...Rb8, by the way, White seems to win the exchange anyway with 16. Bf4. If 16...Rb7? 17. a3 nets White a significant advantage. |
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| Mar-29-10 | | guikfc: 14..Qxe2 15.Bxe2 Rb8 16.a3 Ba5 17.b5 Nb3 18.Bb2 Nxa1 19.Bxa1 (The bishop is trapped). |
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| Feb-13-11 | | Whitehat1963: Man! This game just destroyed me on Guess-the-Move! An embarrassing 1 point out of 16 moves! Kept losing points! |
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| Feb-13-11 | | kia0708: Wow, Ivanchuk defeating Anand in 16 moves. |
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Jul-30-17
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