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Magnus Carlsen vs Vasyl Ivanchuk
Aerosvit (2008), Foros UKR, rd 1, Jun-07
King's Indian Defense: Orthodox Variation. Bayonet Attack Sokolov's Line (E97)  ·  1-0

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Jun-08-08
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  IMlday: To my eye everything was very well played up to 27..Nd7?! where he could have safely held with 27..Qh6 to tie the ♖/d1 to defending against ..Bd2. Relocating the ♘ to the King-side was tricky, but didn't work.
Jun-08-08  groupoid: I wonder if Ivanchuk really tried to win. Was the repetition Qh6-h3 a device to save time?
Jun-08-08  MoonlitKnight: Magnus has an immense psychological upper hand on Chuky. +4 =3 -0 says it all. It's like the game is over before it started.
Jun-08-08
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  IMlday: Trying to win may have been the error. When the best move repeats then will to win can be dangerous.
Jun-08-08  Atking: I'm not sure that 35...Rf7 equalizes. White has too much space for hese rooks. To say 36.Rc4 which controls f4 . What's wrong here is Be4 blocks all c-d-e pawns! Ivanchuck's reaction was normal he reacted before white rooks invade c file. More I looks this game more I think Carlsen had deeply prepared his c pawn sacrifice. By this gambit the ugly b5 takes a new live.
Jun-09-08  r1xze: Carlsen and Chucky are my two fav. players so I really enjoyed this game. I'm glad to see the fighting spirit in both players. They have both been in great form lately. Congrts to Carlsen!
Jun-09-08  znprdx: Ivanchuk played to win. While planning his tactical strike he probably never never considered Qf2 would you OTB? 32....Bf4 begins a 13 ply attack which was refuted one ply later with 39. R[c]e2 yet I wonder if now Nf6 might have saved the game. Assuming 40.Rxe5 Qh6 41.Kg2 g5!? If 42. Rh1 Qg6 with the idea of Qf7 taking control of the light squares with the threat of g4.
Jun-09-08  znprdx: The more I look at this position the more I wonder if ...32.f4 may at least hold the draw. Anyone with feedback on this?
Jun-11-08  minasina: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/mai... game commentary <Carlsen bags a lion> by IM Malcolm Pein
Jun-14-08  Knight13: 13. b5 breaks the law of "You're supposed to play c5 damn it!"
Jun-14-08  minasina: http://webcast.chessclub.com/Aerosv... Game of the day, commented GM Joel Benjamin
Jun-16-08  Knight to f6: I think both players played pretty well during the first 20 moves, though Carlsen got a significant advantage there. You can see some likely time pressure (repetition) on moves 24-26. I think that rather than making a single major mistake Ivanchuk made several smaller ones and was uncertain in terms of what to play (ex: he kept moving his queen from h6 to h3 and back again). Either way, one of these small-ish errors must have been in the opening, Carlsen got too much of an advantage there.
Jun-17-08  hedgeh0g: I'd agree that 27...Nd7? was a mistake. As long as the knight remains on c5, the position is more or less closed. At this point, it may have been best to just go for the easy draw. A little too ambitious, perhaps, by a player who must have been very confident going into this tournament.
Jun-19-08
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  HeMateMe: I love this opening for white. It just seems natural to shove three pawns into the center, if black allows it. I wonder what a Tal or Shirov would have done to shake up the board for black?
Jun-23-08  Chessmensch: Kavalek has a detailed analysis of this game in his Washington Post chess column dated June 23, 2008. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...
Jun-23-08  Atking: Thanks for the link <Chessmensch>. I would like to to know what Kavalek has in mind when he said 27...Nd7?! What would be his move here?
Jun-24-08  notyetagm: From the Carlsen forum:

<percyblakeney: Carlsen answering questions at Chesspro, he considers his game against Ivanchuk his best in Aerosvit, followed by the one against Eljanov. Carlsen means that he played well also against Nisipeanu, but that it wasn't his opponent's best day.>

So unfortunately for Chucky he caught Carlsen on his best day.

Jun-24-08  notyetagm: <Knight13: 13. b5 breaks the law of "You're supposed to play c5 damn it!">

Laws are meant for patzers, not geniuses.

Jun-28-08  notyetagm: Looking forward to seeing Carlsen's annotations to this game in the upcoming New In Chess Magazine 2008/5 when it comes out.
Sep-01-08  notyetagm: 35 ... d6-d5?


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From Chess Today 2771, annotations by GM Baburin:

<35...d5?

Opening up of the position favours
White - the side with two rooks. It
was better to play 35...Rf7!?, making
White to work harder. Then White
can't play 36.Kh1? in view of
36...Nxg3+! 37.hxg3 Bxg3–+.>

(VAR) 35 ... ♖f8-f7!?


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(VAR) 36 ♔g2-h1? ♘h5xg3+! <reloader> 37 h2x♘g3 ♗f4xg3 <skewer>


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Finally, note that Black escapes from any <PIN> of his Black g3-bishop to his <UNDEFENDED> Black g5-queen by simply moving the Black queen to the h-file, <CHECKING> the <EXPOSED> White h1-king.

Sep-01-08  notyetagm: 37 ... ♗f4xg3


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Note that in the final position above Black is easily winning because White cannot prevent the upcoming <DOUBLE ATTACK> 38 ... ♕g5-h4+ against the <EXPOSED> White h1-king and the <LOOSE> White e1-rook.

For example, 38 ♕f2-d2 ♕g5-h4+ 39 ♔h1-g1 ♗g3x♖e1, and Black is up by 4(!) pawns.

(VAR) 38 ♕f2-d2 ♕g5-h4+ <double attack> 39 ♔h1-g1 ♗g3x♖e1


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Oct-11-08  aazqua: Why would white play kh1 after rf7? White is happy with the structure as is. Why not bd5 to force the rook to move and then re4 rc4 to put pressure on the weak backward pawn? I don't see that black has any pressure or means of developing pressure. White's structure is solid and black has a massive weakness - the c pawn - to be exploited.
Oct-11-08  aazqua: Maybe there wasn't anything better for black from move 39 on but his moves are tantamount to a resignation. Trading down to a r v n endgame with pawns on the wing is suicide.
Dec-02-08  notyetagm: 13 b4-b5!?


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I wonder if Carlsen's 13 b4-b5!? will make it into <Dangerous Weapons: the King's Indian>?

If you look up this line up to 12 ... ♔g8-h8!?, White is *not* scoring very well.

May-25-20  doash: 30...f4! seems key to Black's chances to equalise.
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