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| Jul-18-08 | | zb2cr: I didn't see the game line to completion. Instead, I tried 33. Ne5+, Ke8; 34. Rxg8+, Rxg8; 35. Qd7+, Kf8; 36. Qf7#.
One move longer, but using some of the same ideas. |
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| Jul-18-08 | | DarthStapler: I saw the first 3 moves in one of the variations I analyzed but not Qxd6+ |
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| Jul-18-08 | | johnlspouge: <<JG27Pyth> wrote: [snip] Here's a sideline I don't think has been mentioned: > Your variation is (1.1) in my post, with your <33.Qd6+> correctly written as <33.Qe6+>. C'mon, <JG27Pyth>, you mean to say you didn't read <all> my variations? ;>) I nearly fell asleep myself today. |
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Jul-18-08
 | | Bishoprick: As problems go, sort of icky. You know that every move has to be a check or Black mates. In each case, there is only one (or two checks) available. So. . . |
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| Jul-18-08 | | YouRang: Ach! I saw the whole thing up tp 33.Qe6+ Kf8, but then my board vision failed me, and I didn't see the lovely finale: 34.Rxg8! |
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Jul-18-08
 | | kevin86: I have an alternate move that IMHO works better. Oops,correction 31 ♕d6+ but black parries with ♔g7
The fullexchange would leave white a rook down:(
Maybe I ought to get a job in the banking industry. |
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| Jul-18-08 | | ruzon: I did not see that 31.Qxd6+ is met by Kg7 either, but the banking industry isn't the place to be right now. Go do some engineering or art, kevin86. Creating is good for the soul. |
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| Jul-18-08 | | MiCrooks: I agree with the other poster...the fact that you are facing mate in one makes this problem easier than it otherwise might be. You know that every move has to be a check. So even if you didn't see immediately where things were going, you would immediately reach for Rh8+ as your key move. Then it is just a matter of sorting through alternatives to find the right path. This is the kind of game that I really like to back up a few moves and see how they got themselve into this sort of razors edge position, where whoever has the move wins. |
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| Jul-18-08 | | MiCrooks: Whiteshark: in your first diagram, yes Black is a pawn up but White has plently of compensation. In these positions the initiative outweighs material, and computers are notoriously bad about figuring this out. For instance, after h5 what would be Black's reply? The computer settles on Re8 which is reasonable threatening e4, but White has hxg6 and Black must recapture as he cannot allow gxf7. Which way to recapture? Say hxg6 then after Rh4 White's position has a lot of potential and Black's attack appears to be going nowhere. I'm not saying Black is lost by any means, but I think White would have been fine playing into this line. By playing into this position he was saying that he was willing to gambit this pawn for the initiative. |
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| Jul-18-08 | | AccDrag: Oh, interesting blindspot by me... I do all my analysis without a board, so sometimes I hallucinate badly with retained images. :-D |
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Jul-18-08
 | | Kasputin: Black is up a piece and threatens an immediate mate on b2. For that reason nothing works with the white knight as a first move because the knight cannot deliver check. A defensive candidate move would be 29. Qe2 but this is not all that satisfying for fairly obvious reasons (same with moving the king). Candidates:
a) 29. Rh8+
b) 29. moving the queen - Qxf7+, Qxe7+, Qc8+
a1)
29. Rh8+ Bxh8
30. Rxh8+ Ng8 (if ...Kg7 then 31. Qh6#)
31. Qh6+ Ke8
32. Rxg8+ Kd7
( or ...Rf8 33. Qxf8+ and then 34. Rg7#)
33. Qe6+ Kc7
34. Qxf7#
a11)
29. Rh8+ Bxh8
30. Rxh8+ Ng8 (if ...Kg7 then 31. Qh6#)
31. Qh6+ Rg7
32. Qxd6+ Kf7 (or 32 ...Ke8; 33. Rxg8+ Rxg8; 34. Qe7# - and of course 32 ...Re7 leads to 33. Qxe7#)
33. Qe6+ Kf8
34. Rxg8+ Rxg8
35. Qe7#
a2)
29. Rh8+ Ng8
30. Qxd6+ Ke8 (...Re7 then 31. Qxe7#)
31. Rxg8+ Rf8
32. Qe7#
a21)
29. Rh8+ Ng8
30. Qxd6+ Ke8 (...Re7 then 31. Qxe7#)
31. Rxg8+ Bf8
32. Qe6+ Re7
33. Qxe7#
And since 29. Rh8+ looks like it works in all variations, there is no need to think about any queen moves as candidates. That is, if I didn't miss anything. |
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Jul-18-08
| | Kasputin: Well I think I got this. Some other time, I will go back and see if all of this is correct. If there is an error, please point this out fellow kibitzers. Despite the necessity of white to continue with check after check, doing this puzzle is about the limit of my board vision right now. |
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| Jul-18-08 | | JG27Pyth: <C'mon, <JG27Pyth>, you mean to say you didn't read <all> my variations? ;>)> JohnLSpouge... when you've got to use the Dewey decimal system to catalog your variations it's time to step away ;) (FYI -- I think I like the 1.1.1 1.2.1 etc. labels... is that your innovation? I don't think I've seen it before.) |
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| Jul-18-08 | | zenpharaohs: I think I got this (another "second man through" play), but since I was reinstalling the operating system on the computer I didn't do any computer checking yet. |
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Jul-19-08
| | patzer2: For the Friday, July 18, 2008 puzzle solution, Bologon initiates a mating attack with 29. Rh8+! See either <johnlspouge> or <Kasputin>'s posts for detailed analysis. |
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| Jun-28-12 | | Poisonpawns: I have found that 20..f5 is the culprit and that 20..Nd5 draws for black or black may be slightly better, but i think his king ends up to exposed
click for larger view
then if 21.hxg6 hxg6 22.Qf3 Qc5 23.Bxg6 Nxc3!+ 
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24.Qxc3 fxg6 25.Qg3 Rxf2 26.Qxg6
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Also,instead of 26..gxf5; Ng8 27.Qxg6 b4 is a tough defense. 
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| Aug-18-13 | | BlackFront: <Bolo Punch> |
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| Aug-18-16 | | offramp: A Bolo Punch is a punch successfully launched at an Englishman's bolos. It has a pain rating of 6.6 on the MacRichter Scale. |
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| Aug-18-16 | | catlover: This is a fun game. I love the way that Bologan has to conduct his attack with mate on the move hanging over his head, starting from 28...bxc3 on. I wonder whether he foresaw all these lines of attack when he played 22. g4, knowing that 22....e4 would allow his bishop to be trapped. |
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| Aug-18-16 | | Ironmanth: Nice ideas and execution here! |
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Aug-18-16
| | kevin86: White mates next move! |
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Aug-18-16
 | | fm avari viraf: For Black "Hope in vain & die in despair". |
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| Aug-18-16 | | morfishine: <offramp> I'm not buying it |
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Aug-18-16
 | | thegoodanarchist: A very strange bird is the Pelikan
It's beak can hold more than it's belly can |
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| Aug-18-16 | | jith1207: I love the way <CG> has honored the pun-suggester <BlackFront> by making this game GOTD for the day the pun was recommended, only after 3 years. |
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sac: 23.gxf5