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Brian Warnock vs Charles Hertan
"Hertan for Certain" (game of the day Jul-14-2008)
Newton op 11th (1988), Watertown, rd 2
English Opening: Symmetrical. Rubinstein Variation (A34)  ·  0-1

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Jul-14-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  An Englishman: Good Evening: An unchallenged Maroczy Bind is a deadly one. This game is a very good example of what can happen.
Jul-14-08  the jam: Not easy to find similar black position:
Rd8, Qd7, Rd6
Jul-14-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: 49...Re7+ 50. Kc8 Rf8# would have put white out of his misery a few moves earlier.

<CG>: Is this lame pun the best you could come up with? Couldn't you think of something based on "warlock" or "Sir Brian, the lion, goodbye!" or "to boldly go where no ♔ has ever gone before"?

And one last gripe: How useful is it to call this opening "symmetrical"? It was symmetrical for all of one move.

Jul-14-08  arsen387: why is that 41.Nh5+ giving away the N? what's wrong with 41.Kg5
Jul-14-08  ILikeFruits: did you know....i like fruits....but you dont know that....
Jul-14-08  runderwood: That was quite the pawn rampage.
Jul-14-08  RookFile: <al wazir: 49...Re7+ 50. Kc8 Rf8# would have put white out of his misery a few moves earlier. >

You're right. Hertan has a new book out called "Forcing Moves". I'm sure he would see this today, with his emphasis on always looking at all captures and checks, and "thinking like a computer".

Jul-14-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  kevin86: A funny middle game: pawns gobbled up a rook,2 knights,and a queen-black's promoted queen ate up a second rook.
Jul-14-08  patzer2: With 28...exd3! both sides begin an alternating chain of piece captures with a single pawn. Black comes out ahead at the end of the exchange by collecting a pawn and the two White Rooks in exchange for the Queen.

With two Rooks, a Knight and an extra pawn against the White Queen and White Knight, Black has a strong advantage and the initiative. Combining these advantages with good technique allows him to easily score the full point in this game.

Jul-14-08  mindkontrolle: wow great game here
Sep-11-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: It's truly unfortunate that White is represnted by only this game in CG, as he was a strong player (low 2300s USCF) in the 1980s, who never played a lot-maybe two or three events per year, if that.
Sep-11-11  Strongest Force: Good to see a Charlie game. He was also a 2500 level runner...left me in the dust in a foot race.
Jan-15-12  bwarnock: <perfidious> -- Hello Mr. Shaw -- long time no see! - Do you remember playing in those crazy all-night 30-30 tournaments that Olin Forman used to put on in Peterborough NH? Anyway thanks for the kind words - I've retired from tournament chess pretty much - I've got a second career/hobby in early music and that's part of the reason I never played that much. Also living in NH I had less access to the Boston scene than guys like Girome Bono, Jim Thibault and later J. Rizzitano. I did manage to win the NH championship in '75, '81 and '91 though.

Regarding the game -- I was in severe time pressure near the end, which explains 41 Nxh5ch and some inaccurate moves later (for instance 43. Ke4 is a better try than Ke6, which allows black to reset the position of his rooks advantageously), but I think White is objectively lost by that time anyway.

Charlie's 32.. c4! was a surprise (threatens to trap the queen with 33...Nb3 and 34...Ra1) 33. a4 is the only way to avoid this. At the end I started laughing with my king getting mated way down there at the other end of the board.

I'll submit some of my better games (I had a nice win against Curdo in one of those Leominster tournaments) so this isn't the only example in here.

Brian Warnock

Jan-16-12  Nemesistic: Brian Warnock,

Perfidious AKA Alan Shaw hasn't been seen round here for a few months now..

Rumor has it that after <LIFE Master AJ> accused him of not being the "real" Alan Shaw he just grew fed up of LifeMaster AJ's constant taunts and demands for Identification,and left!

But i couldn't say for Shaw!

He wasn't the first and he won't be the last to leave chessgames because of AJ Goldsby,but i do hope he returns..

All the best

Neme..

Jan-20-12  bwarnock: <Nemesistic> - I went and read through some of these posts - particularly those following the Nakamura-Goldsby game - I don't think <perfidious> was driven away - just had better things to do. He doesn't seem particularly upset or annoyed in any of his comments, although <LMAJ> DOES seem to have that kind of effect on people.

I've uploaded about 15 games and we'll see if/when they appear... I gather this doesn't necessarily happen overnight....

Feb-07-12  King Death: <bwarnock> (I'm making a little bit of a jump I know), if you see this, I think your opponent missed a idea that isn't obvious and took me a couple of minutes to spot with 21...g5. This looks weakening at first and the move Hertan played should keep a safe advantage but after 22.ed Nd4 I don't see anything better than giving back the piece with a move like 23.Kh1. White has that backward d pawn on the open file and his king position is full of holes. Black's edge in space and better placed pieces mean that the weakness around his own king can't be exploited.

This is just a thought and in a practical game I don't blame a strong master for playing the safer move.

Feb-16-12  bwarnock: <King Death: <bwarnock> (I'm making a little bit of a jump I know), if you see this, I think your opponent missed a idea that isn't obvious and took me a couple of minutes to spot with 21...g5. ...>

I'll look at it - at this point in the game Black already has a positional advantage and doesn't necessarily need to force things.

A quick response is that after 21... g5 22.exd4 Nxd4 23. f4 (!) gxh4 24. gxh4 it's not clear whether Black still has the advantage - Probably but it would take some analysis to prove it and it's not obvious just looking at the position:


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Jul-16-12
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  perfidious: <bwarnock> Brian, it's been a long time and I hope everything is well with you!

Some thoughts on the suggestion <King Death> made and your response come to mind.

From the diagram above, 24....Qe6 looks strong, with ideas such as ....Rg7+ and ....Qc6(+). White probably has to bail into an inferior ending because his king position is so open.

In fairness, as both of you noted, it isn't at all easy to take the decision to 'cash in', given that the game has taken a positional course and that this is a radical transformation.

Jul-21-12  bwarnock: <<perfidious <bwarnock> Brian, it's been a long time and I hope everything is well with you!>

Very well - I'm living in Arlington, MA and spending most of my time (apart from work) playing music - have pretty much retired from competitive chess although I play occasionally on the internet for recreation. Glad you're back - there was some wondering here where you had gone to....

And - do you remember those crazy tournaments that Olin Forman used to put on in Peterborough NH. 30-game through the night into the morning?

And "Clone Pine" which was similar but with a hand-picked bunch of us... I actually beat Charlie once in that one (he dropped a piece).

Jul-22-12
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  perfidious: < bwarnock: Very well - I'm living in Arlington, MA and spending most of my time (apart from work) playing music....Glad you're back - there was some wondering here where you had gone to....>

When did you move back to Mass? You were in NH for a long time.

<...And - do you remember those crazy tournaments that Olin Forman used to put on in Peterborough NH. 30-game through the night into the morning?....>

Couldn't forget those if I wanted; of the events which were held annually from 1978 through 1999, I played in all but 1978 and 1994-even shared first twice.

Last time I saw Olin, he was working on a craps table at Foxwoods, where I was visiting to play poker. He and his wife have lived in Conn. for a number of years now, but I hear rumblings that they're going elsewhere.

<...And "Clone Pine" which was similar but with a hand-picked bunch of us... I actually beat Charlie once in that one (he dropped a piece)....>

The event in 1982 you're referring to was the first of four-we also held Clone Pine from 1984 to 1986.

The '82 shindig was also my first career win against Charlie, a little payback in the second cycle after he crushed my Caro-Kann with the Panov in the first. Think it was a Nimzo.

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