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Etienne Bacrot vs Yannick Pelletier
41st Biel International Chess Festival (2008), Biel SUI, rd 5, Jul-24
Philidor Defense: General (C41)  ·  1-0

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Jul-25-08  Marmot PFL: I see the Frenchmen played Philidor's Defense.
Jul-25-08  messachess: I think that the chances here positionally for a win are with Bacrot.
Jul-25-08  karnak64: Is Pelletier really out of time?
Jul-25-08  barb: I think Black's under real pressure here.
Jul-25-08  karnak64: Um, I guess so ... Congrads, Bacrot!
Jul-25-08
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  kamalakanta: There was no defense to the double threats of Rxa5 and Nh5.
Jul-25-08
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  chessgames.com: Thanks to everybody for participating in today's triple header. We'll be back tomorrow at 8:00am (USA/Eastern) for round #6.
Jul-25-08  Marmot PFL: Been a while since I've seen "Bacrot wins".
Jul-25-08  Vilya: Yeah, me too...
Jul-25-08  malthrope: Thank CG.com! :^)
Jul-25-08  messachess: This was just remarkable positional play by Bacrot. Pelletier was in virtual Zugzwang at the end. This post deserves reshowing: <THE pawn: But talent-wise, Bacrot is as good as everybody, he just doesn't invest that much time into chess anymore. I think he got over the game once he realised poker was more $ and when he wouldn't stop winning the french championship. Back when he was 14, Kasparov said he would be top 5 one day because of his enormous talent (he precisely said that himself at 14 wasn't as good as young Bacrot) but he left his chess studies.>
Jul-25-08  Ulhumbrus: In the position after 25...c3 White's Rooks are three moves ahead of their Black counterparts in development.

The move 28 Rxb7! follows a rule useful to know about, where it does apply: when your opponent attacks a piece, offer him another as well. He can take only one at a time. What might be called a classic example of this occurred in the game Anand vs Kasparov, 1995 where by 21 Ka3 Anand attacked one of Kasparov's rooks. Kasparov offered Anand his other Rook as well by 21...Rxc2! whereupon Anand resigned.

One explanation for offering a second Rook when the opponent attacks the first is that it overworks the attacking Rook, which has then a second task laid on its shoulders, that of having to defend its colleague. Its collesgue is overworked in the same way, having to defend the first Rook.

Jul-25-08  acirce: Indeed nobody can deny that Bacrot is incredibly talented. I have not heard about that Kasparov statement before, but I don't think that would have been an unrealistic prediction at the time. Perhaps now it is too late but...perhaps not.
Jul-25-08  vanytchouck: messachess>

Are you sure of your quote?

The only Kasparov's quote about Bacrot i know is one where he's said that Bacrot will be the best french at 17.

The only comparison between Bacrot and Kasparov i know was made by Dorfman.

I don't claim to know everything about Bacrot, but i've got lots of french magazines about the young Bacrot and i don't remember reading something even close.

Jul-25-08  messachess: <Are you sure of your quote?> I got it from <THE pawn>, this tournament: L Dominguez vs Bacrot
Jul-25-08  messachess: Who else was good at age 14? Bobby Fischer said, "When I was 14, I just got good." Indeed, he won the US Championship at 14.
Jul-25-08  ex0duz: The usual suspects i believe.. Radjabov, Bu Xiangzhi, Judit Polgar, Leko, Carlsen, Karjakin, Wesley So etc.
Jul-25-08  ajile: This is why the Philidor is not played at the top levels much anymore. White maintains a nice advantage from beginning to end.

Black's opening weakness? White getting a Knight to f5. Also Black in the main line of the Hanham Variation tries for b5. c6-a6 and even b6 to prepare b5 if White plays a4. Problem is Black wants to play b5 and Bb7 which leaves a weakness on f5.

Jul-25-08  Granny O Doul: <messachess> It was at age 11 that Fischer "just got good".
Jul-25-08
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  sisyphus: Who was good at 14? Capablanca and Reshevsky come to mind. For that matter, Botvinnik placed fifth in the Soviet championship at 13. Mecking and Short also deserve mention.
Jul-25-08  percyblakeney: <Who else was good at age 14?>

Polgar was enormously strong at 14, according to Chessmetrics she's the best player ever at that age. Karjakin almost won against Kramnik at 14 and Radjabov won with black against both Kasparov and Anand when slightly older, so they ought to be among the strongest players around that age lately.

Jul-25-08  GHOST19: Ponomariov was also extremely strong very young.
Jul-25-08  messachess: <Granny O Doul> I thought I remembered reading him saying "14." I forget the source--maybe the 'Hayes' (is the author?) volume of all his known games.
Jul-30-08
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  Mateo: A good game from Bacrot. 26...Rab8!? was an interesting pawn sacrifice (as after 27.bxc4 Nxc4? 28.Rdd7, White wins), but then Pelletier lost his way (27...Rfd8?!). Better 27...Rfe8! 28.Rxe8 Rxe8 with counterplay.
Aug-17-08
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  Mateo: Bacrot analyses his game : http://chess22.fr/mambots/editors/a...
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