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Viswanathan Anand vs Magnus Carlsen
Grand Slam Chess Final (2008), Bilbao ESP, rd 5, Sep-06
Spanish Game: Schliemann Defense (C63)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Sep-07-08  Lutwidge: I have to say, I've no idea why everyone's playing 4. d3 vs the Schliemann. 4. Nc3 is, as far as I can tell (and I do try to more or less keep up on this opening), still very, very, dangerous for Black.
Sep-07-08
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  Jimfromprovidence: <Jason Frost> It took me a while to get it, but, if 19 Qxc6 Bxf2+, then 20 Nxf2 Rxf2 21 Nf5! Rxf1+ 22 Rxf1 puts white a pawn ahead, along with the threat of Nh6+.


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Sep-07-08  notyetagm: Carlsen sure does love that <HALF-OPEN F-FILE>.

J Smeets vs Carlsen, 2006

Black to play: 35 ... ?


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35 ... ♖f3xg3+! <discovered pin>


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Anand vs Carlsen, 2008

Black to play: 20 ... ?


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20 ... ♗b6-e3! <pin>


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Sep-07-08  notyetagm: <Woody Wood Pusher: I don't think Anand overlooked 20...Be3, its a pretty obvious move with a triple stack on the f-file. He figured he had compensation with the pawn and the activity of his knights, and he was right. I will only believe he missed it if he actually says he did.>

http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp...

Chessbase says he missed it.

<20.Rd2? Be3. Chess blindness. We hear that Anand missed this move that costs him an exchange>

20 ♖e2-d2? ♗b6-e3! <pin>


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I like how you call the trebled Black heavy pieces on the f-file (Black f8-rook, f7-queen, and f6-rook) a "triple stack". Sounds like a really big hamburger. :-)

Sep-07-08  Woody Wood Pusher: chessbase says a lot of things.
Sep-07-08  ksr: <WWP> Read Susan Polgar's blog. Anand himself said after the game that he missed it. Now believe it.
Sep-07-08  Woody Wood Pusher: well if he missed that, with all blacks resources directed at that one area.....he is in trouble! I would have been surprised if he missed that in blitz, let alone a relatively long time control game....
Sep-07-08  PinnedPiece: < IMlday: ..... Then 18..Rf6 tapping f2 asks White if he has better than repetition. Maybe he didn't, but kudos for keeping the game alive.>

Absolutely. No intention of taking a draw on either side, but it happens nevertheless.

General theory seems to be Carlsen blundered away a win. Don't see any suggestions here how Carlsen should have taken advantage of the exchange on move 21...

Anand wields his knights too effectively in defense.

was there something better than

24 ..h4? Say, Ba6?

Sep-07-08  Ulhumbrus: <IMlday: 17..Rh6 is threatening 18..Qf7-f6-h4 with a mating attack since h3 can be answered ..Bxh3. Hence 18.Qc3 to prevent ..Qf6. > White can't play 18 c4, if 18...Qf6 counts as a threat. This suggests 17 c4 instead so that on 17...Rh6 18 Rac1 Qf6 19 Rfe1 Qh4 20 Nf1 is possible.
Sep-07-08
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  IMlday: 29..Bxf5 wasn't very ambitious. The ♙f5 is weak anyway so why trade it for ♙a7 giving White the passer? 29..Qd4+ looked logical. I thought 24..h4 was good. The position was dangerous unless he gave back the exchange. Surely the reason that Anand finds 20.Rd2 (?) is because 20.Re1 allows repetition. The tournament conditions require playing to win. After 18.Qc3 he was probably expecting 18..Qd7 when 19.a4 allows the combo 19..Bh3 threatening ..Bxg2 mangling. But White has a defence, 20.e5 so the zwichenzug e5-e6 will mess up Black's coordination. Instead give Black the more patient 19..a5. Then if 20.Re2 Bh3 (to force e4-e5) 21.e5 Bg4 22.Re1 Be6 Black has scary compensation e.g. 23.Ne4 Bd5 24.Qd2 Rh4 25.Ng3 Qg4 and White is hopeless against the twin threats of ..Bxg2 and ..Rxh2. Nor would 23.Qd2 improve as 23..Qd8 intending ..Qh4 is very strong. Definitely an entertaining struggle.
Sep-08-08
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  Mateo: <IMlday: 17..Rh6 is threatening 18..Qf7-f6-h4 with a mating attack since h3 can be answered ..Bxh3. Hence 18.Qc3 to prevent ..Qf6. Then 18..Rf6 tapping f2 asks White if he has better than repetition. Maybe he didn't, but kudos for keeping the game alive.> Interesting explanation and I guess it does likely explain what both players were thinking about. But I think it was based on some false calculations! 19.Qxc6 looks playable. If 19...Bxf2+ 20.Nxf2 Rxf2 21.Nf5! Rxf1+ 22.Rxf1, the compensation for the pawn is unclear to me.
Sep-08-08
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  Mateo: <IMlday : 29..Bxf5 wasn't very ambitious. The f5 pawn is weak anyway so why trade it for a7 giving White the passer? 29..Qd4+ looked logical.> 30.Qxd4 Rxd4 31.Nd3 is no more than equal. The 'f' pawn is no longer a weakness. On the next move of my variation it could even jump to f6.

<Surely the reason that Anand finds 20.Rd2 (?) is because 20.Re1 allows repetition.> I believe you meant 20.Ree1. But Black can also take the pawn. 20.Ree1 Rxf2! 21.Nxf2 Bxf2+ 22.Kh1 Bxe1! 23.Qxe1. That's equal. And less risky than Anand's 20.Rd2!?.

Sep-08-08
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  Mateo: 25Qe7 should be considered, according to Anand.
Sep-08-08  Ulhumbrus: Instead of 25...Re8, 25...g6! attacks the pinned f5 pawn a fifth time and may win. Qg5 can be answered with ..Qg7. eg 25...g6 26 Qg5 Qg7 27 Nd4 gxf5 28 Nxf5 Bxf5 29 exf5 Rxf5. Or 25...g6 26 Qh6 Qg7 27 Qxg7 Kxg7 or 25...g6 26 Nd4 gxf5 27 exf5 Bxf5 28 Qg5+ Qg7
Sep-09-08
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  IMlday: Perhaps he rejected 19.Qxc6 because of ..Bd4 preventing the ♕ from recentralizing?
Sep-09-08  Ulhumbrus: <IMlday: Perhaps he rejected 19.Qxc6 because of ..Bd4 preventing the from recentralizing?> On 19 Qxc6 Bd4 20 e5 attacks the d6 pawn a second time. On 20...dxe5 21 Nxe5 attacks the black Q which helps to defend the Be6. On 21...Qe7 22 Nf3 Bb6 23 Ng5 attacks the Be6 a third time. On 23...Bc8 24 Rxe7 Rxc6 25 c4 White has two extra pawns.
Sep-09-08
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  IMlday: After 19.Qxc6 Bd4 I'd expect something like 20.c4 (trying to keep the position closed) Kh8 (maintaining the tension)with a mess. 20.e5 looks like an overplay permitting ..Bd5 with monster ♗♗s.
Sep-09-08  Ulhumbrus: <IMlday: After 19.Qxc6 Bd4 I'd expect something like 20.c4 (trying to keep the position closed) Kh8 (maintaining the tension)with a mess. 20.e5 looks like an overplay permitting ..Bd5 with monster s.> Black threatens ..Rh6 followed by ..Qf6 and ...Qh4, if White doesn't find some way to prevent it in time. The move 20 e5 is one attempt to distract Black from carrying out that threat.
Sep-10-08
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  IMlday: That's logical to avoid the mating attack but has a positional difficulty since the ♗s want open lines. After 20.e6 Rxf2 21.exf7+ R2xf7+ 22.Kh1 Bxc6 Black looks likely winning in the endgame since the ♘s lack anchor squares.
Sep-10-08  Ulhumbrus: <IMlday: That's logical to avoid the mating attack but has a positional difficulty since the s want open lines. After 20.e6 Rxf2 21.exf7+ R2xf7+ 22.Kh1 Bxc6 Black looks likely winning in the endgame since the s lack anchor squares.> White can't play 20 e6. Perhaps you meant 20 e5. On 20 e5 Rxf2+ 21 Nxf2 Bxf2+ 22 Kh1 the B on f2 is pinned.
Sep-10-08
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  IMlday: Sorry wrong numbers. I meant 20.Qxc6 Bd4 21.e5 Bd5 22.e6 Rxf2 etc which favours Black.
Sep-11-08  Ulhumbrus: <IMlday: Sorry wrong numbers. I meant 20.Qxc6 Bd4 21.e5 Bd5 22.e6 Rxf2 etc which favours Black.> On 20 Qxc6 Bd4 21 e5 Black can't play 21...Bd5.
Aug-20-09  tagbay: this's a very nice game.
Apr-04-13  LIFE Master AJ: Nice game. Good example of the Schliemann.

Has anyone else noticed this ... or is it just me? (Magnus seems to play a different opening in every one of his games - that I look at.)

Apr-04-13  LIFE Master AJ: <<Boy Anand is playing some bad chess. He is somewhat lucky that he is not -3 in this tournament. If he plays like this in Bonn it will be a whitewash for Kramnik.>>

How prophetic.

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