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Kieran O'Brien vs David Salter
European Club Cup (2008), Kallithea GRE, rd 4, Oct-20
French Defense: Winawer Variation. Winckelmann-Riemer Gambit (C15)  ·  0-1



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  chrisowen: <Memethecat> <WinKing> <TheFocus> What a scream light it bind to elicit one queen in eh,

Banger it hope principle wangle together h2+ kingh2 g3+in well it a lesson

Good king formula for success old one too radical eg ok bhang hi pistol engine at mate qxh2+

In free it a pin fibula nxg3+ kg1 rh1#

fetching back yer led pencil knight in g3 all ergy it you in almighty it also in wing couple tether gestate h2 adventure e4?

Clave sugar on fiel it tow in try it qh4 again park in h2

Gone space find rook as haggling carpet in from it again,

francine seep queenh2 rook in black gharials nap off the poll endanger it each in ah present firm case it her gabba in ok smelt the gun g3 h1 king#

Nov-13-18  saturn2: 20...Qxh2+ 21. Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22. Kg1 Rh1# (22...also winning Nxe4)
Nov-13-18  stacase: Too easy for a Tuesday.
Nov-13-18  Walter Glattke: Very simple: 20.-Qxh2+ 21.Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22.Qh4 Rxh4+ 24.Kg1 Rh1#. Mate in four, one iso: 23.Kg1 Rh1#
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  agb2002: Black is two pawns down.

White threatens Qxh4.

Black can deliver mate in four: 20... Qxh2+ 21.Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22.Qh4(7) Rxh4(7)+ 23.Kg1 Rh1#.

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  paavoh: Quite easy for a Tuesday, Qxh2+ and a mate to follow. Why White did not remove one of the attackers by 19.Nxh5 - beats me.
Nov-13-18  Mayankk: Simple. Can be a Monday puzzle as well. The main idea is that the White King is forced to move to g1 after the discovered Nxg3+ check since the Knight at g3 is also supported by a Rook.

The final Rh1# mate is easy to see.

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  malt: 20...Q:h2+ 21.K:h2 N:g3+ 22.Qh7
(22.Qh4 R:h4+ )
22...R:h7+ 23.Kg1 Rh1#
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  HeMateMe: Kieran had too many beers.
Nov-13-18  zb2cr: This is Monday-level. 20. ... Qxh2+; 21. Kxh2, Nxh3+. Seeing that Black's Knight at g3 is protected by his Rook and thus, immune from the King capturing it is the only thing that might be considered to lift the puzzle to Tuesday-level.

22. Kg1, Rh1#.

Nov-13-18  zb2cr: Or, as <malt> was kind enough to point out, White has the choice of two useless interpositions.
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  laskereshevsky: Must confess that for an half dozen of seconds i was attracted and stay stuck to 20...♘xg3 and the white is practically forced to play 21.♕xh4 to avoid ♕xh2# (sic!) or the lost the ♕ in e4, and after 21...♘e2+ 22.♔~ the ♖h8 take the ♕... But after realizing the♗c4 guard e2 my mind was purged by this unhealthy plan and immediatly I remembered the classical mate scheme ♕xh2+ ♘xg3+ ♖xh1#
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  ChessHigherCat: Just as yesterday, the trick is to avoid the obvious immediate gratification Q move (yesterday Qxg6) and go for Q-sac Tuesday with 20..Qxh2+ 29. Kxh2 Nxg3 (whoops, got ahead of myself 30. Kg1 Rh8#)
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  moronovich: Hey,good to see you are back <Chess Higher Cat>!
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  ChessHigherCat: Thanks <Moronovich>, nice 2CU2
Nov-13-18  The Kingfish: 20...Qxh2+ 21.Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22.Kg1 Rh1++

I would love to get a chance to play a move like this over the board some day!

Nov-13-18  lost in space: 20...Qxh2+ 21. Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22. Qh4 Rxh4+ 23. Kg1 Rh1#
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  gawain: I didn't see how conclusive the queen sac on h2 was. White has no time to create an escape hatch on f2.
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  malt: Good to see you back <ChessHigherCat>
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  ChessHigherCat: Thanks <malt>!
Nov-13-18  AlicesKnight: 20.... Qxh2+ forces 21.Kxh2, when ...Nxg3+ mates in 1-2 moves. White was evidently oblivious playing the 20th move, as I might have been....
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  ChessHigherCat: I just played through the whole game and saw how badly pawnophagic white needed to be punished!
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  swclark25: Scroll down to compare <chrisowen>'s reply in Mar-19-12 with today's. Every bit as insightful and delightful now as before.
Nov-13-18  UrVileWedge: Felt more like a Monday puzzle than a Tuesday one.
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  Bubo bubo: Mate-in-4: 20...Qxh2+ 21.Kxh2 Nxg3+ 22.Qh4/h7 RxQ+ 23.Kg1 Rh1#
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